What would you expect from this breeding.... - Page 1

For the working line czech dog fans I'd like to know what you'd expect this litter to be best suitable for and what one would expect it to produce.

Breeding Foxy Von Furenhaus to Agar Zdekra.  If I configured this right I believe it's a 5-4 in SG Lord von Gleisdreieck a 4-5 in Velmi Dobry Kaso z Pohranicni straze and a 2-5 in Tom z Pohranicni straze.  In my research and oppinion from a lot of czech dog lovers input it looks to be an impressive breeding and I would like some feedback from some of you as to what you'd expect the offspring to turn out like -going off of genetics alone since we have nothing else to consider at this point.  Would you think these would be more serious dogs suitable for pp, k9, sar, or sport?

The pedigree is incorrect. Biba is out of different Tom z Pohranicni straze! Biba was born in 1988 and the Tom posted as her sire was born in 1994, the correct Tom was born in 1984. Also, Biba's dam is Nora and Nora's parents are Iro z Pohranicni straze and Xira z Pohranicni straze so that is also incorrect.

im not sure what they would be better for, but they were absolutely georgous. i really wanted the little bi-colored female.

WOW with an incorrect pedigree, I would expect to pass on this litter. Hard enough to keep up with the Mals and the lies they have for pedigrees.

Jeff- I think on the database it might be incorrect or maybe I just screwed it up when I was trying to figure things out...lol  I pulled the bitches pedigree because I have a copy of the original AKC- I own the Sire who was used as the stud dog to this litter.

Foxy Vom Frolich is the Dam-Her dad is Din Kvero and her mother was Hyland Vom Frohlich.  On the Dams side she's got a lot of nice dogs in her pedigree such as Quell, Lord, Xero z P,Grim z P,Titus z P

Agar Zdekra is the Sire- His dad is Tom z P and his mother is Dezaa Abel An.  On his side he also has some nice dogs such as Cordon An-sat which is his grandfather.

Maybe I didn't figure things out correctly and that's why it was presented confussing but if someone who knows better than I can figure this out for me I'd appreciate it.  I'm pretty new at it all but I do A LOT of reading and research on what I own so I can get a clear picture of my own dog.  Takes me a bit longer to start understanding other people's pedigrees, especially if I don't recognize a dogs name.

The reason I'm asking for input is obviously my dog is the SIRE and it's his second litter here in the states.  I saw these pups at 6 weeks old and yes Melba I must agree they were a gorgeous litter.  I was impressed by my first impression; this was a good sign BUT time will only tell if and what they are good at from a working perspective.  This breeding took place because the bitches owner wanted to hold back a pup or two for herself.  There were 7 pups and I had the option for pick or the stud fee.  Before I saw the litter I opted to take the stud fee because I just didn't think it was the right time for me to start fresh with a puppy since I was still learning and trying to get Agar to where I wanted him to be.  But MY "pick" should I have chosen to take that route is still available and I am contemplating buying him because my situation has changed a little that would allow me much more extra time over the summer than I anticipated.  I figure this would give me an opportunity to a. start from scratch with my dogs product to learn the sport from the ground level instead of the "catch up" I've had to do to get on to my current dogs level of training b. I will be able to see first hand how this pup will turn out to get a better picture of my own dog producing and c. I know for sure that at least one of his pups will get titled and continue to work in a working home.  But because I'm a very new handler I'd like some feedback from those more experienced than myself to give their "prediction" if these pups will be suitable for an inexperienced handler.

Your honest input is appreciated.

Melba- BTW  I think that little bi color female is still available.  From what I was told by someone who evaluated the litter and took one of the males she's spunky little thing that will probably make a nice sport prospect.

Yes, Din Kevor's pedigree is incorrect on the database. Follow Din's dam Chola, her dam Nora, thats where it si incorrect.

Hukka can I have your email, or can you email me GSDfan1@yahoo.com I have an unrelated question for you (sorry to jump in your thread Agar PS)

Thanks,

Melanie

Hukka- Gottcha, now I understand what you were trying to say.  Had me confussed there for a minute.  On the origingal pedigree papers for the Dam Foxy it does show the discrepency.