linebreeding in pedigree - Page 1

When I looked at the pedigree for the stud Kiserhoff listed I noticed a lot of the same names. But it said no common anscestors on the linebreeding section. Is that because these names were all on just the stud side? Do the common names have to be on both sides in order to be linebreeding? Just curious.

its only part of a pedigree   its not complete    She wont answer my question as to where is the rest of it....people are telling her this is a good looking dog....good looks dont make a dog breed worthy       she is a beginner I think ,so we need to educate her so she doesnt produce any butt dragging bad hipped dogs....Id like to see her get the dog ofa just for curiosity....I get so mad when dogs like this can sometimes have a passing ofa xray, .....and I know its the luck of the draw.....

I'm not even going to get started on how everyone wants to breed every dog they own. It just leaves me depressed.

But, if there is common ancestry on only on side of a pedigree does that constitute linebreeding? I mean if both sides were there? Or do you need common anscestry on both sides for it to be linebreeding? I've seen pedigrees in the database sometimes with the same ancestry and it said no linebreeding. I'm just trying to figure it out. Maybe just an error?

It's a serious question. Not a comment on Kiserhoff except that pedigree prompted me to ask something thats been passing through my mind for a while.

Thanks.

What do you mean "luck of the draw"? I've heard asleep/not asleep makes a difference as to a false "poor" rating. Is there a way to get a false "good" rating also? Or do you mean that even with conformation like that some will still have good hips?

Linebreeding does not have to be on both sides of the pedigree for the animal in question to be considered linebred.  That's why you will see the linebreeding listed as 4,4-5 etc.  That would indicate a certain ancestor appeared twice on the sire side in the 4th generation, and once on the dam's side in the 5th generation.  If you had a dog that had linebreeding 5,5-5 on one ancestor (say Don vom Rolandsteich) and you bred him to a bitch who was also 5,5-5 on Don v Rolandsteich, the puppies would actually be 6,6,6-6,6,6 on Don v Rolandsteich; HOWEVER, since this database only figures linebreeding on the first 5 generations, they would show "no common ancestors" within the first five generations.

Okay. That makes sense. Thanks for the information, altosland.

And may I add 6,6-6,6,6 linebreeding maybe termed as BACKMASSING. Will prove effective if none of the near ancestors show prepotency... e.g. If the recent ancestors got high ratings in trials only through good trainers...then if the Backmassed individual was breed surveyed to improved working ability and balanced temperament...then you'll see the characterics of the backmassed dog improving or maintaining your stock... One good example is the breeding of  V Enno Antrefal and V Drigon Furmanshoff who were surveyed to produced "superior working dogs"... this I have read on a survey of this lines.

Have a nice day..   :) Marci