Personal Protection Dogs - Page 1

Varun, It is real hard to select a puppy and guarantee it will mature in to a protection dog as it has not matured enough at that age to see anything. This will cause a uproar but working lines do better protection work than show. There are show lines who have produced protection dogs for sure but this is not percent wise a good type line to get as they are more laid back in dirves and have a softer temperament when it comes to bite work. Look at the female and male whom you are thinking of buying from and see what the dog does. Do not mistake a nervy dog one who is aggressive for no reason barking at strangers as a true protection dog. Those dogs are actually soft and fear plays a role in this behavior and will leave you in a second when the chips are down. You choose a puppy from a proven producer of hard offspring and who is hard themselves and you still will have a gamble when dealing with puppies. The hard dogs that are stable are hard to find as again nerve comes in to play. Lots of luck I see you are in India and I am not sure of the availability of a working line kennel in your country. I have a two year old titled male for sale on my site a truly hard dog from our sire Zidane Vom Haus Sevens but he might be too much for a novice handler. He has impeccable temperament with children and no handler aggression but he is a lot of dog drive wise. Marlene Wiggins www.alabamak9.com

Varun I think in this instance it is a "you get what you pay for" kind of thing.  If you are talking about a level 3 ppd you are paying for the hours and hours of training that went into this dog.  If you are starting a puppy and working with someone to train it then it will cost less.  But you'll still have to put in the hours of time and cost of training.  For instance, my puppy was $2500, but he has a long way to go.  My bitch, on the other hand was $6500, but she is fully trained.  My breeder also has dogs that run up to $45,000-$50,000.  These are the level 3 dogs and one of them is also trained for patrol and narcotics. 

If you are selecting a puppy I would recommend study, study, study.  Go to different trainers.  Talk to them.  Watch them work.  It will take time for sure, but there is no shortcut.  On the other hand, a dog already trained will be less time consuming but at the same time more costly.

Good luck with your endeavor.

You can pay whatever you are willing to for a dog but 45,000 to 50,000 for a level3 protection dog is not a fair price. If the dog has been in the WUSV and a top producer this may be in line as our sire was in that price range but be careful when looking there are kennels out there who would sell you one for 100,000 if you want to spend this type of money. The Sch1 dog who does super protection work as well is 7,000 and all the dog anyone could ever need and hours of work went in to him will bite without sleeve not a typical sport dog. It is not magical to learn how to train and the best thing to do is join a Schutzhund Club in your area to learn. We would transfer a dog to someone without charge this is standard but you cannot learn how to train yourself in a short period of time. Marlene AlabamaK9

I wouldn't pay over $4000 for a fully trained protection dog.  Maybe I am lucky, but I see too many dogs that have the natural ability that are given away for  free because their owners got more than they bargained for.  Hell, it would be hard for me to even squeeze out that much!  I can't believe these companies out there that import Sch show dogs from Germany, do 3 months of street work, and turn around and sell them for $25-50,000. 

I couldn't resist and I called one of these companies.  The guy told me he had the perfect dog for me.  Working lines and dark sable. A dog, that with my experience would be a perfect fit.  He told me that he would keep this dog himself, but his "partner" has horses and the dog doesn't like horses.  I told him that my wife also has horses.  He replied that I  sound like a good enough trainer to get the dog used to the horses.  Now how can I do this when a guy charging $50,000 for a dog cannot?  BS is all I can say!

A good working line pup from "Proven Bloodlines" will cost you anything from  $1800 -  $3000

Anything below that is crap and anything above that is a scam

what is also very important is your rapport and relationship with the breeder. The breeder should always be there beside you to guide and help when you need. Acquiring a dog is just the beginning of the journey.

Hmmm...I guess I have a crapper since I didn't pay that much for my pup!  He is out of great lines top and bottom and is doing very well. I will say he is more suited to PP than sport but that is really what I wanted anyway.

Buy a pup out of parents who are proven at throwing protection dogs. Generally that would be working lines, not show. Watch the parents work and if you see what you like, your chances of getting that in the pup, will be better than throwing the dice and just buying whatever. Unless you buy from a breeder who guarantees your happiness you are still taking a chance. 1 or more pups might not workout for you but as you keep looking, you will get better at judging what you see and may even change your mind in what you are looking for.

Don, Well put there are a lot of these people doing this to customers advertizing in Fortune 500 magazines and getting 50,000 for a untitled protection dog assigning levels to it.  I guess you would only need to sell one a whole years salary right there! LOL

A bomb dog is fairly high in price but not near 50,000 for sure you could get three at that price. It takes about a year to two for training and 27 elements alone to purchase for scent work so I can see this as well as a very narrow window of dogs make this cut it is mot like regular drug work for sure. The old saying a fool and his money are soon parted. See Harrison K9 and look at some of those prices how many do you want to buy!