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by Becca24 on 22 June 2007 - 15:06

Hello I am new to this site, came across it while researching breeders around the country.  I live in Maryland and wanted to find a fine quality German Shepherd.  I haven't decided on whether or not I want a male or female either.  I noticed a few people talk about a male named Kway who belonged to Bill Kulla, but all the way ni Illinois.  I see that he is breeding this dog to a pretty sable named "fenga" who looks impressive in her own right.  My question to the board and all of you who have a far greater knowledge than myself on this matter is, will I see a difference in paying $1,500 for one of these puppies 12 hours away vs less paying  than $1,000 for a less well known line that might be local??  Before people start in on "if money's an issue don't get  a dog" let me just say that money isn't really a problem, I just want to know if I'm really getting my monies (and worth.  Let me also say that I am pregnant with a baby on the way and plan on this being a family pet.  I want to be able to take this dog with me to parks and cookouts and be around other dogs, children, and strangers without causing problems.  I DO want a purebred young shepherd.  I welcome and thank all for your positive feedback and advice!

Thanks!

Rebecca


by ChBailey26 on 22 June 2007 - 15:06

Funny, I'm looking into the same litter!  I was going to get a female but from what I hear and read about Kway it's hard to pass on getting one of his sons!  Great looking dogs!  I actually spoke to Bill Kulla and he said the puppies would be fine family pets.  Good luck!

dave


by Get A Real Dog on 22 June 2007 - 15:06

Becca---

Big red flag--Kway is a  top level competition dog. You are looking for a pet. You being pregnant; a high energy working puppy + newborn baby might be a little much.

Talk to him. he might have a pup he thinks will work out but I would be looking for someone breeding a little less dog.

Just my humble opinion. Good luck.


sueincc

by sueincc on 22 June 2007 - 15:06

Fenga was the mother of Dean's "b" litter. 


by s_vargas on 22 June 2007 - 15:06

I have to agree with Get A Real Dog,

When my wife was pregnant with our daughter I got a new GSD pup.  He was super high drive and it did not work out well at all.  My wife always said" I wish this F*&king dog was not so active."  I have not seen the Progeny from Kway, but I have seen him at the Nationals and if he produces a good high energy offspring like himself you may be getting more than you bargained for.  This is not to say that it wont work but if you take into consideration the time it takes to have a puppy and the time it takes to have  a baby you may want to reconsider getting the pup until your child is a little older.  I wish I had!

 

Shawn


Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 22 June 2007 - 15:06

I agree with GARD and Vargas.  I am getting back a pup that is 9 1/2 months old tomorrow.  It was just too much for the lady to handle.  This is the one instance that I will recommend looking at the show lines.  I personally have two very young kids.  When you have a dog that is very drivey, there is always a risk.. I have to explain to my 3 yr old not to pick up sticks and balls and tease the dogs.  The thought of one of those dogs going for a stick and accidentily taking the arm with it, makes me


sueincc

by sueincc on 22 June 2007 - 15:06

That B litter was on fire!!!  Great drives for schutzhund.


yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 22 June 2007 - 16:06

I agree with Gard and Vargas and Don    .:  This is common in new owners, to want the best of the breed, but His dogs are competition dogs and even if you breed to a calmer female, which sure , a pet for a dog family which has trained and owned several of these german dogs, is fine but to a pregnant lady , I dont think this is the way you should go.. Number one  the pup is gonna require mega attention , training, and  your and your husbands undivided attention , as socialization, potty training, and commands are the priority for a new pup of this calipher ,or if left to grow up on his own , you have a destructive, badly behaved pup.....taking him to a trainer is not the answer, so dont think you can take him and leave him somewhere while you birth a child and pic upp where you left off.......some of the people on this site maybe can lead yu to a more suitable liltter.of excellent pure bred shepherds for family life and a newborn baby....I have a pup that  i TOO may havae to take back, Don,   because they chose it over the one I saved for them, and I told them he was the dominant , high drive sable , and that I had chosen a blk red male for them with 5 children , youngest 2 , 4 ,7  9 and 11   ,,,,Husband fell in love with bad boy, and now they think they made the wrong choisce ,,,,,the dog has used every arm, leg, face and body part for a tug, toy or bite work and he is only 14 weeks old....they dont know what to do and I spend 2 hours going over what to do now, and kenneling was not being do=ne, and I told them, you cant put a 2 and 4 year old in that  situation, they are too young and the pup is too young to hold by the scruff and make stop....she read that in a book somewhere and a petsmart trainer told her to start that.......nono nonononono.so ...just a word of heeding......   I picked the dog for thier grandfather, and they left here with a calmer, more laid back one , and grandfather and pup are doing fine,,,but hes older and had shepherds all his life and is from Arminia  and knows how to train and keep a pup.....from eating you.......


policemom

by policemom on 22 June 2007 - 16:06

Is this your first German Shepherd?  If it is, and you're getting a pup, be prepared for a full time job.  They are alot to handle.  You might want to consider getting an older, already trained dog.  With a baby on the way you're really undertaking way more than you know.  Good luck and best wishes.


by FCSC on 22 June 2007 - 16:06

"This is the one instance that I will recommend looking at the show lines.  I personally have two very young kids.  When you have a dog that is very drivey, there is always a risk.. I have to explain to my 3 yr old not to pick up sticks and balls and tease the dogs.  The thought of one of those dogs going for a stick and accidentily taking the arm with it, makes me " (DC)

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE JOKING.

There is a risk with ANY kid and ANY dog. You have to supervise your kids with ALL dogs. It could be the neighborhood mutt that takes your kid's arm when going for the stick. Teach your kids appropriate behavior around dogs and insist they follow the rules.

Ever see Border Collies? Goldens? Labs? Jack Russels? Hate to break it to you hard core working line addicts, but there are lots of drivey breeds out there that will go for a ball and a stick. So skip the work-show garbage - all dogs have teeth and lots of dogs have drive. Supervise your kids and you'll have no problems. The most important thing in a dog is good temperament, and that can be found OR lacking in ANY lines, and in ANY breed. 

There are good and bad examples of the breed everywhere you look, it's not limited to a particular line. Make an educated choice of breeder and pup, make a commitment to the dog, and intelligently manage your situation.






 


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