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by kmaot on 14 June 2007 - 01:06

Hello.

Can you pls advise whether the urethra in the female empties first into the vaginal walls?  Or is there a separate exit point as with humans?

My bitch has blood in that region and while it HAS been Dx that she has a bladder infection we are also waiting for her first heat (at 12 mos). 

She did have blood in her urine and I am just wondering whether (say she DID NOT have an infection) whether there WOULD be blood in urine if the bitch were in heat.  I can pat at her vulva and there is blood.  Just trying to figure it all out....

 

Thanks!


by kmaot on 14 June 2007 - 01:06

And yes, we did do the progesterone test as well but it showed a low baseline level. 


by von symphoni on 14 June 2007 - 10:06

you would not be able to tell without a culture if the blood is coming from the urinary tract or from heat by simply being able to tell that the blood is exiting her vulva. However, if she is coming into heat her vulva should be somewhat swollen and will become more so.  If she is urinating frequently, squats often and passes only a few drops of urine, that is most likely from the bladder infection.  With a bladder infection the blood would also most likely be pale as it is diluted with urine and wbc.  If she is in heat or coming into heat the blood will most likely be much darker, like fresh blood.

Lisa

 


by gsdlvr2 on 14 June 2007 - 12:06

Yes,she would have blood in her urine if it was NOT a urinary tract infection and she was in heat. Even if they passed a catheter to get the urine it is likely she would at least have a trace of blood in the urine sample. as for the rest of your question re:anatomy your vet should be able to answer that. If you can pat her vulva and get blood ,that is probably her heat. I have never seen that amount of blood in a urinary tract infection unless it was a kidney stone or bladder cancer or something like that. She might take several days to swell and for her progesterone levels to go up. Hope that helps.

by kmaot on 14 June 2007 - 12:06

The problem is that she isn't having outward signs of an infection.  She pees as often as she usually does.

Her vulva has been a mite swollen but nothing huge, her nipples are larger and we were wondering whether it was a false heat.

I will keep an eye out...


by gsdlvr2 on 14 June 2007 - 13:06

kmaot-if it was a mild infection she would not have outward signs. I think it is her heat from what you have said so far. how long has this been going on? it's also possible both things are going on at the same time.

by kmaot on 14 June 2007 - 17:06

The vet said it could indeed be concurrent.

She has had an odd discharge for almost 2 weeks.  Her fur in that area had some mucous or blood.  It was continuing without any real sign of heat so I took her to the vet.  Her vulva seems more prominant but we haven't seen a HUGE change.  Perhaps I don't know how much of a change there should be. Her behavior hasn't changed a bit and she is not flagging and my neutered male could care less.

There was more blood this morning and the blood continues.  Really, I think she MUST be in heat (this would be her first at 12 mos) but don't understand why my male doesn't care yet.  Wouldn't he tell me ASAP even if she were not ready to mate?

I mean, would a bladder infection cause both fresh (bright) and also brown blood every day?? Without other signs of infection??


by gsdlvr2 on 14 June 2007 - 18:06

I wouldn't worry about not seeing a huge change in her vulva since it is only her first heat cycle. Some mucous,some red blood and some brown blood all sounds within normal to me. A bladder infection would NOT likely be red blood to sight but rather red blood cells on a urine dip stick along with a large amount of white blood cells in the urine, not usually enough to be seen with the naked eye. Whether or not she would show some of the other common symptoms such as frequent urination could go either way. She might,she might not. You say this is going on for almost 2 weeks and your ?neutered male doesn't care or another male? It's possible she could not yet be at the mating time of her heat until late this cycle because she is just starting. If there is red blood associated with a bladder infection WITHOUT a heat cycle ,I would be more concerned that is was a pylonephritis or something like that not a bladder infection,or, like I said before something serious like cancer. [ unliely in this case]

by kmaot on 14 June 2007 - 21:06

Thanks gsdlvr2.  This is my first intact female.  I have done much reading but it seems that first heats can be quite variable.  My vet has been hard to get a hold of re the test results on the urine...I am assuming there was a high WBC .  Must have been otherwise the Dx wouldn't have been made!

I actually found a couple blood splatters on the hardwood floor now.  I am quite convinced she is in heat and the doggie diapers have been put on to save my bedspread.  But I will be diligent and continue to watch for more symptoms of heat.  If there is not, I will certainly contact my vet again as I don't want there to be major health problems that we have glossed over.

 

Thanks again!


by gsdlvr2 on 14 June 2007 - 21:06

your welcome kmaot I am pretty sure it's her heat too.





 


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