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I want only serious opinion. No idiots wasting their time on this site. No showline owners and no backyard breeders.

Only people who have experience in these bloodlines. Please tell me what should I expect in this pedigree and any other helpful inputs.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/508062.html

very, very , very highly intelligent pups, with ball drive un told, prey drive to the ultimate, detemination to be the most dog you will ever put hands on...be ready at three weeks old to start rag work, socialization and start the sitz and have plenty of tugs, tiny ones, because there will be pups ready to hand from your knees....great pedigree of workers and I know   I have Orthos /Anika FUerstenberg grnd kids, and Bear Jerome out of Lava Korbelbach and Kanto....Monteforthalle....all they want and live to do is be at your attention and work for you.....the whole litter should me max  .....

Is this your breeding? or are you buying a pup? I do not know you so  am curious......Austin out of Camerons Gator son of Orthos was so hard at one year I couldnt work him , had to have somone else train with him and then I exited the Schutzhund world..., health reasons.....

Both of my males are very social but not the loving dog, too busy dropping 50lb logs on my feet or in my lap...and their mouth is never empty...A bowl, a toy a tool of work , or a tree , in the mouth at all times...and the release is the hardest to accomplish with these bloodlines....they are super easy to train as their drives are the secret to the heart of a dog that only is interested in WORK.....WORK WORK...

thanks Texas. I own this pup and intend taking him upto the highest level of competition and for breeding purposes also.

I have a black bitch out of one side back to Orthos Tiekerhook and she looks just exactly lilke Beauty tiekerhook and has produced some nice pups but she is a lovey ,dovey pup , that I did not like in the beginning...she didnt  have the drive.... but turned out to be a producer of high drive and dogs with structural soundness, good heads, large and ear stances excellent, and coats nice and full, not heavy, and always has blk /red breed with a grand son of ENclavehof and SteffenHaus....dont cry   Gary Hanahran did it;....he bred Pirol to Cassie v Steffenhaus   a Jada v Steffhaus and Hoss v Hasenborn progheny......pretty great looking working dogs,,,,,,

I feel 3-2 on Nick is a bit close but lets see. Koos knows his job pretty well

Koos breeds a bit closer than most.  I saw this breeding on his site and it looked very interesting.

I should expect to see you at the worlds in 2010!  LOL

Good luck! Lots of drive with a bit of aggression. 

Thanks Don,

I have talked to Koss at length on his "so called controversial" breedings. The man is a constant innovator in breeding and tries to experiment constantly. He is not stagnant

I'm going to the Bundessieger in September .Hope to see you there. Wanted to go for the World Championship in Slovak too but a bit tied up :( will miss it