Questions for ALL BREEDERS!!!! (Everyone welcome!) - Page 1

A friend of mine and I were talking earlier, about a few not so ethical breeders we've known over the years, and the long list of questions they asked, and then the replies we got, when we answered them..... so I am now going to ask all of you breeders out there.... if you will, kindly answer the questions below, it would be nice to see other people's opinions on what they do/don't believe in, etc.

*The parts in parenthesis, were a few of the justifications they gave for not agreeing or seeing the need to do things "the right way..."AND if you agree with ANY of the replies in parenthesis, it's OK. We are not looking for a bashing thread, just opinions!!! SO PLEASE DO NOT TURN THIS INTO A BASHING THREAD. WE ARE WELL AWARE NOT EVERYONE HAS THE SAME IDEA'S ABOUT BREEDING ETHIC'S, ETC.   

1) What is the point in getting the Hips / Elbows done on a dog prior to breeding it? (Especially if the dogs behind that one, haven't had any problems)

2) What is the point of putting all of that hard work and energy into titling a dog? (It could get hit by a car, or stolen tomorrow then you are out all the time and money)

3) What is the point of selling puppies with health guarantees? (I mean come on, everyone is perfect right? Any "reputable" breeder wouldn't have to worry about hips/elbows/ears/FLUKES...) 

4) Why do some breeders want to keep tabs on every single puppy/dog they sell? (Hell, when people want to buy a dog, they don't want the breeder's friendship with it, right?)

***REMEMBER, KEEP IT CIVIL : )

1.) You can't build a Lego castle, if all the pieces aren't there.

2.) Why go to work and work hard all day. You might have a hearty attack.

3.) Why buy a $30,000 car without a warranty.

4.) Seeing what your grand kids achieved in the future has no bearing on your friendship.

              I'm not a breeder. I just have the up most respect and love for the gsd. There are many of us that treat our dogs as part of the family. We want the best for them. The breeders know thiws also, that is why they try to give you the best they can. Putting hard work into a dog is the begining of the fondation of a strong bond between you and your dog.

Well i don't mind being called a breeder with good ethics... at least in our part of the world.

:)

Marci

. Because its been proven just because Mom and dad were ofa good or excel the kids that are produced may not be either,,,good produce bad and bad can produce excel so each and every dog needs to be individually passed...or failed...then the decision has been made do no breed if not passed..  just like people in this world, my brother was Valedictorian of his high school class, my father was also....my other brother and I just graduated with a 4.0 and 3.6 average and not all kids take on the hereditary good of the parents...

Because titles and hard work show that the lines are worthy of their name German Shepherd, protector , herder and loving dog.....and when you dna and kk a dog it can never be said you cant prove where that dog came from....and Im a firm believer on this to the end... paper means nothing blood is thicker than water and can sure tell where youve been.....

With some restrictions as to how the pup must be raised as when pup leaves breeder , breeder has no control over feeding, housing and health care so guidelines must be set as to a vet check and verification of all issues before a ruling of replacement or paying for any vet care are offered...a very tricky line here.....because so many things are brought on by nutrition alone.....any heretitary issues are a must to guarantee as that is how u stop a pup from being rebred and passing it on   ...Most reputable breeders have healthy pups anyway and very seldom do you get a serious problem and if one crops up you deal with it and consult a geneologist.....to determine if you continue to breed the pair that produced it.....wow   who wants to be a breeder??????

yellowrose of Texas,

well said!!!

1) What is the point in getting the Hips / Elbows done on a dog prior to breeding it? (Especially if the dogs behind that one, haven't had any problems)

it is the ethical thing to do if you are gona breed.would you like to buy a dog raise it train it and intend on breeding it .to find out there hips are not good.this would be very hard on your dogs health. also there are people who really love the breed and breed for healthy vivrant dogs.

2) What is the point of putting all of that hard work and energy into titling a dog     you owe it too your dog.he is your friend and guardian.  there is nothing more awsome than watching a obdiant dog and his owner compete on the field.this is a bond that is hard to achieve when some one else trains your dog. it is earned .not bought!!              

  3) What is the point of selling puppies with health guarantees? (I mean come on, everyone is perfect right? Any "reputable" breeder wouldn't have to worry about hips/elbows/ears/FLUKES...) 

well this is to asure the buyer that you have the facts right .that you are responsable enough to have your dogs in good health and that there off spring will be healthy too.its very funny the terms back yard breeder. im not a big fancy kennel that has fiffty dogs in it.i would rather have my dogs in my back yard. this way i know how much love and exersise my dogs need.also this way when there sick i dont have to run down the street to the kennel to check the dog he is right here at my feet.if he falls ill be there to catch him.

4) Why do some breeders want to keep tabs on every single puppy/dog they sell? this is to help the breeder achieve his goals to better the breed. also allows him to properly asess them for future owners!!!

1) What is the point in getting the Hips / Elbows done on a dog prior to breeding it? (Especially if the dogs behind that one, haven't had any problems)

The fact that parents have "a" hips and elbows is not a 100% guarantee that children will have the same.

2) What is the point of putting all of that hard work and energy into titling a dog? (It could get hit by a car, or stolen tomorrow then you are out all the time and money)

In accordance with SV rules, dogs above 2 years old must have working title (IPO, Sch) in order to be koered and bred.  If you want to be serious breeder that is the road to follow (x-ray hips and elbows, DNA , working titles, koerung....) 

3) What is the point of selling puppies with health guarantees? (I mean come on, everyone is perfect right? Any "reputable" breeder wouldn't have to worry about hips/elbows/ears/FLUKES...) 

I do not know that in Europe people are selling dogs with health guarantees. Dogs are not cars so you will give guarantee for 100,000 km. What you see is what you get. Do your homework before buying. Breeders who care about their reputation will do their best to avoid problems in their dogs but there migt as well be some problems they are not aware.

4) Why do some breeders want to keep tabs on every single puppy/dog they sell? (Hell, when people want to buy a dog, they don't want the breeder's friendship with it, right?)

You may have sold the pupy but it will always remain yours because it carries the name of your kennel. With pupies you cannot be 100% sure that you kept the best one so you want to leave yourself some room to be able to buy back something that you have sold (Zamb Wienerau , Ulk Arlett......) or maybe to manage the career of the dog. Sometimes people you sell to are not interested in show or working and the dog turns to be an excellent animal. You want to see it in the show ring or on the working ground.

Just my two cents