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Naya's Mom

by Naya's Mom on 22 May 2007 - 15:05

As some of you may know, I currently have a 50% DDR and 50% Czech bitch, Naya, now 7 months old. I am looking into purchasing an all Czech female puppy from this very nice breeder. She was nice enough to go into some details as the difference between Czech and DDR dogs. Here is what she had mentioned so far: PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD TO THIS LIST, AS I ONLY WANT THIS PUPPY IF IT'S THE RIGHT FIT!

1. Less time to mature mentally, like waiting for drives to kick in.

2. Often more energy, or drive.

3.  Extreamly loyal, almost to the point of obssesive.

This was the comparison made about the Czech dogs, and here's what was said about the DDR:

1. Longer time to mature mentally.

2. High energy, but with enough exercise can be calmed down.

3. Thicker bone structure

4. High drives, but not as high as the Czech lines.

 

Like I said, this was the comparison I was given, please feel free to chime in and add to the differences. Judging by what I was told, I'd say my girl acts mostly DDR. Thanks in advance for any help! 


by zdog on 22 May 2007 - 16:05

I'd say they are just things that people like to talk about to give themselves something to talk about.  Sure there's differences from dog to dog, but I wouldn't paint such broad strokes when comparing "lines".  I'd look at the particular dog and some it's previous offspring, litter mates, etc and make a decision.

 and I'm learning to not even listen to most people when they talk about "high" drive dogs.  There's a big difference between high energy and high drive, and it seems most can't make the distinction.


by GSDLVR on 22 May 2007 - 16:05

DDR- Great loyal calm and focused protection dog.

Czech- Great loyal calm and focused protection dog on a few Red Bulls after an iron dog contest, a nonstop hour long game of fetch, a rabbit chase and a Schutzhund trial.


Naya's Mom

by Naya's Mom on 22 May 2007 - 16:05

She did say they were very high energy. I am wondering if a pure Czech dog is really going to fit my lifestyle. Here's what my set up is:

One acre, 4 foot chainlink, and 6 foot privacy on the outside totally fenced in. I run the dogs twice daily in my 20 acre cornfield beind my house. The dogs get free run, and run to their little heart's content.

I wonder if the dog would be "liveable" after the long walks? The walks take about an hour each, from one end of the cornfield to the other. I also do retrieves with the dogs, and bite work...I'm still worried though, if I just might not be active enough for this puppy.


by firefly on 22 May 2007 - 16:05

Have to agree with GSDLVR.

Most of them mature quickly (high ball,defense,fight and civil drives). Some of them the DDR backround kicks in and they take a bit longer. All I can say is that a lot of Czech GSD's are on the street as worikng K-9"s.  That should count for something.


by zdog on 22 May 2007 - 16:05

a lot are on the street now because they are the "new" rage in GSD's.  The same thing happend with DDR dogs when the wall came down.  They were the new rage and cheaper.  I have not seen much difference in a good  wester German a DDR a czech GSD, good dogs are good dogs. 

There's so much difference between littermates of one litter, no matter the lines, how can you say that czech dogs are this and DDR are that???  I have no preference for either or dislike for either.  We have a dog at training that is now starting to mature mentally and he's almost 4, but he's not DDR, or should I just call him that cause he took a while?


SchHBabe

by SchHBabe on 22 May 2007 - 17:05

If you're worried about the high energy level and the dog getting enough exercise, you should consider your exercise routine and kick it up a notch with a bike. 

If you're just walking with your dogs, that's not a fast enough pace to challenge them.  Sorry but we're just clumsy bi-peds.  A more intense workout would be to ride an off-road bike with your dog trotting fast along side you.  (Adult dog, after bones plates fused, yada yada yada).

You live in Michigan, right?  Well try snowshoeing in the winter.  You will walk on top of the packed trails in your snowshoes, and your dog will likely be running in the soft snow along side the trail, and working much harder at the same pace.

As far as all the DDR vs. Czech debate, I'm surprised to hear that some people think there's such a big difference.  Interesting.  But if it's just the "high energy" thing that's make you shy away from a particular bloodline, I think you can manage that.

Give me a call if you want to chat.  You still have my number, right?

Yvette

 


by VomMulhank9 on 22 May 2007 - 17:05

Naya theres a big difference in czech compared to DDR when it comes to the dog coming into maturity. Everybody that knows something about GSD's knows that DDR are slow progressors but are awesome when they hit that maturity. Czech on the other hand are quick to mature and for the most part harder dogs, with a whole lot more drive in my opinion. I've tried both and theres nothing like a czech but would at the same time own the right DDR. Just remeber that your the one that has to live with the dog and not the rest of us. Just make sure you have the right time and energy to work that czech.

 


Kelly M Shaw

by Kelly M Shaw on 22 May 2007 - 19:05

I would have to say if your worried about the energy level in the Czech line's then that should raise a flag. I always say when in doubt don't get it. In my opinion, not all DDR dog's take long time to mature, like zdog stated, there is always a big difference between litter mates. For example, I have to litter mates right now that are 87.5% DDR and the rest West working. The male will definitely take longer to mature than his sister. His sister at 7 months old could start training right now in shutzhund on a tug, where her brother would do it too, but take longer to mature mentally, and take longer to move ahead than his sister would.  Czech dog's do mature faster, and can be harder, with extreme energy levels, but the out come of the DDR when fully matured is price less in my opinion. I personally wouldn't get a Czech dog, because of the energy level, and it wouldn't fit in my life style.  I hope this helps some, and you are always welcome to call or email me.

Naya's Mom

by Naya's Mom on 22 May 2007 - 19:05

Yvette,

Nope, I don't have your phone number, I would love to chat though. Feel free to email it to me!

 

I am very happy with my current girl, don't get me wrong, I just wish she were a little more "juiced up" and I am hoping this Czech bitch might be what I'm looking for. Once Naya and I are working, she gets REALLY into it, and goes and of course the age old saying, "Hits like a freight train" and bites like a croc! But it takes me a long time to get her up into that mode, she doesn't snap into it as quickly as I do, and yes, before I get jumped on, I know, I am human, she is dog...dogs don't think like humans.

Just purchased a clatter stick, see if we can shake our workout up a little!






 


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