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venzosmom

by venzosmom on 22 May 2007 - 13:05

could any breeder let me know, if there is a standard type of breeding co/owner contract, a friend of mine was contacted to breed her male with a female, that they did have a co-ownership of, they told her that the breeder didnt say who she had to be breed to, only that after they had to give her price of one pup, does this seem right to any of you ?

Bob-O

by Bob-O on 22 May 2007 - 15:05

I would not say that is unusual at all. This is from a guy who purchased a retired stud male under an agreement that set the price for this male as the average of the sale price of one litter of his puppies. That was a fair deal for me, as I obtained a nice stud who produced two (2) litters for me before his death.

It sounds not so unusual. One often sees a contract where the provider of the stud male gets first pick of a puppy from the litter as part of the payment.

 Bob-O


Shelley Strohl

by Shelley Strohl on 22 May 2007 - 16:05

My contract is on my website, as a link on the Stud Dogs page: www.frauengarten.net

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SchHBabe

by SchHBabe on 22 May 2007 - 17:05

If there is a "standard" contract I've haven't seen it yet.  Realistically though, you could potentially write just about anything into a contract.  As long as both parties agree to the terms, you could add as much detail, or as little, as you want. 

I think Shelley's on the right track... hunt around and find several to compare.  I'm sure you'll find some good examples.

Yvette


Shelley Strohl

by Shelley Strohl on 22 May 2007 - 18:05

One point to include in a contract: Any court action should be decided in your county. It costs a bunch to hire someone and fight something, no matter how ridiculous, in a distant venue.

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venzosmom

by venzosmom on 23 May 2007 - 00:05

thank you

yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 23 May 2007 - 05:05

Shelley: I read your contract and  it is nice and straight to the point....I have a question on the two or more live pups = a litter...I think u read my thread about the female that ate the pups and only one was left that had not been eaten, and I didnt want to register it..... if I had let her register it do you say 4 pups born 3 died and 1 living on the akc app?  Dont have to worry about it now, but am curious as to what u would have done.?  

by eichenluft on 23 May 2007 - 07:05

I guarantee one live healthy puppy for my stud dogs' fee.  If the female does not get pregnant, then the owner gets a repeat breeding for her, or another suitable/approved female for the same stud fee (no additional cost) - again, one live healthy puppy guaranteed for the previous stud fee already paid.  That would include instances of still-born, or fading puppies - any reason the (at least) one pup is not "live and healthy".  If the female killed her puppies - I would honor the contract and provide a repeat breeding for no additional stud fee, but not with that female.  Replacement female would have to be approved by myself as being suitable for breeding to my male.  If no other female was available, then in that case (no one live healthy puppy, no option for replacement female), then I would refund the stud fee or at least part of it depending on the circumstances.  Also, I don't limit the guarantee to two breedings as some stud dog owners do - if she doesn't take, then try again, doesn't take again - try again with her or another female.  The same original stud fee applies, no matter how many times - however of course I would expect a female who didn't take to be tested (progesterone, health/blood checks, culture etc) before trying to breed her again, to make sure she is breeding sound.  And of course my stud dog is regularly collected and checked himself.

 

molly


by marci on 23 May 2007 - 19:05

You're TOO GENEROUS Molly...

I had a bad experience agreeing on a Verbal Contract of servicing my bitch...It was supposed to be with a German Import who won the progeny group and it was//  a downpayment plus puppy-share ( No one told me the stud owner will be the one to get the Litter pick)...My proven bitch did not take and after knowing from one of the kennel employees that the Import stud had to be rested for health reasons (Sperm count-LOW) all serviced bitches did not conceived... I was made to select another one (a local Champ) for the repeat breeding... The kennel owner upon knowing my bitch conceived informed me that they still have a share on the breeding and I got pissed...

It so happened that we already signed the whelp registration and I had to lie saying only one pup was left... to split it two legs for him and two legs for me...LOL

If you were in my place wont you be turned off by those kinds of kennel owners who will you push you  for getting a pup-share... I dont mind giving a share because I did not breed to sell, I just wanted an improvement on my STOCK... Its just that they were too pushy demanding to get Litter Picks.


VonIsengard

by VonIsengard on 24 May 2007 - 03:05

All I have to say is, get some good references and speak with other people who have entered into contracts with your breeder in question, and get everything in writing, with every possible if, and, or but covered.  It could really save you stress in the long run.





 


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