A Monster: Elliot Rodger---Privileged, Young White Guy Killer Syndrome? - Page 8

You ask me what I think is his reason for "Why?". 

His concepts of "fairness" and "justice", with himself as the center as "god", demanded an evil "perfection". His emotions were selective and shallow, driven by his envy and jealous reactions to anything that exposed his warped idea of his own perfection.

"Fairness" to him was a definition of equality, that would never allow for another individual to supercede, himself. "Justice" to him demanded any deviation or act of slight from his idea of his "perfection", had to have a counter balance, or it would glaringly expose himself as imperfect, and negate anything ever perceived as "innocent"; the only way he could define a life experience as "bliss". His due as perfection, the right of a god.

Now, I wonder.

If one does believe that no one is "born bad", was there a missed opportunity for Elliot's redemption? I have to imagine, what if?

What if someone had done the tackiest thing possible, but doable, and paid a call girl to pretend to admire Elliot  as a girlfriend and have sex with him. Get him over the hump, so to speak. Would that have diffused him enough to allow him to learn to cope, eventually? As another birthday became inevitable, his burden to demand balance would increase. Anxiety to "suffering" in time. That was escalated, and he welcomed an accessible, deadly rage for relief. The counting of the years, he could only stop, by one way, and remain god forever. That would be to accept his death by his own hand. There was godly control in that.

He scoffed at all therapy and drugs. I believe he was an excellent liar, too. I also believe all his facts to places, times, and people are very accurate. He is expert at omission, as his megalomania is well written.

Could he have been helped with defining realistic goals that are worthy besides obtaining millions to impress girls to have sex? He understood the role of prostitute, but he deemed the act of sex then would be inferior to sex that was free. And that would not suit a god; his particular intellect would not permit him to lie to himself about that. God would not lie to himself. No way.

He clearly knew right from wrong. He knew the consquences and prepared for them. 

Wiki ?

how can there be nine unidentified others?

Sounds like Boston.

Bee, ya got it all figured out....LOL

Movie.....jesus!

Why?

I'll put the parents at the top of the list myself, professionals second, both failed miserably.

Moons,

Any one can blame the parents. You should be specific. They were not perfect, but I believe they were involved and concerned for the most part. One incident among others, stands out for me, and I question his telling of the story for completion, about when he was out till 3 a.m at Cyber Planet with friends. Either they did that without the mother knowing, or there was more to it than he wanted to share. 

Otherwise, I would consider that was somewhat neglectful and inappropriate for their ages. Some of the maternal and grandmaternal behaviour, I would also say was a cultural thing. He was after all, the first born male. 

I was appalled at the manner at which the stepmom was able to manipulate his expulsion when he turned 18. Truth is, the father should never have let her take over authority for discipline, ever. That is generally held to be the proper way to parent, today. It would be correct for the father to support his new wife in authority over the son, that much is true. She probably had other concerns not mentioned. I am sure. I also think his sister knew something of his dangerous nature. She was not forthcoming with names to her brother of friends and lovers. It was chilling to read how he could talk about killing Jazz, the baby brother he said he liked because he was admired by him.

One characteristic that makes it difficult for therapy with narcissists is their ability to lie, is what I have read. Hard to treat someone who has as an only thought, how to stop the session and never come back. If you noticed, even when he went to college, he never connected the idea of course study to anything meaningful relating to a self fulfilling life. Only sex with beautiful blonde girls.

Mark my words, Moons. Movie, yes. One must realize the setting signifcance of the survivors.

All that from his manifesto?

Maybe the stepmom caught him jacking off once too often....LOL

The kid needed guidance from his parents early on and I don't think he got it.

He needed professional help when his parents offered nothing and gone none.

I wondered why the parents did not show up when the police interviewed him if they had such great concerns.

Total fail.

A book maybe., there's not enough substance for a movie, and I'm positive the dad wouldn't be involved in either.

I totally disagree with your post. There is so much that can be done with such a story. It is a gold mine. His father will be motivated to use his talents and connections for what he will call, is a needed and noble cause for change. It will be his duty to participate.

If anyone makes a movie it would be the guy who wants his sons death to have (meaning), he'll find all the financial support he needs, probably Bloomberg.

When you say guidance, do you mean moral guidance? I don't think it mattered. LIke I said, he understood laws, punishment and the difference between right and wrong. His empathy capability was very poor.

He mentioned one incident, though, where he actually tried to show he understood the need for showing empathy at his friend's father's death.  When his friend tried to show bravado instead of sadness, I believe it gave Elliot all the moral superiority he would ever need. His empathy was a mimic of when he saw his own father cry at his father's funeral. Elliot never understood that bravado.

I didn't quite feel a real sincerity beyond understanding there would be consequences of a change to his lifestyle if his father died. Change was anxiety to him. But, I do think there was a sense of respect for the idea of father. He would want to acknowledge the importance of father as head of household. He had imagined himself as being a better father to a child of his own, when he allowed himself to hope for the possibility.

He knew if he ever were to be in the act of dispatching his father, he might hesitate. A god can not hesitate at all, so he had to just plan for his absence.