Questions & answers about GSD structure/ conformation - Page 8

 Lol Rik, thanks. When the video upload is complete I will post it.

Ibrahim

 Here is a link about (Endurance construction).

http://ledeckgsd.com/articles/rugamer.htm

Here is a link about (ANATOMY AND PERFORMANCE ARE INSEPARABLE)

http://ledeckgsd.com/articles/AlbertPlatz.htm

Here comes Orwell

 

Xaro: wasn't it enough you showed them my height! now you want to show them my rear! okay here's one cow hock for Sonora and another one for Rik, oh ... and remember to spell hock correctly for your Rik less he stops telling you how we should look and move. One more thing...he told you I have a beautiful shoulder, why not make a video on it... Ah....I know you won't...... what about the front ? I can send one pastern east and another west for them ..... ok..ok..but don't insert stupid music into my rear .......video.......  

Hi Ibrahim,
I've looked at both the dogs and I think  that 
Orwell could possibly have a problem with his left elbow.
He seems to be moving the left elbow out.
I could be wrong.

Xaro, I find definitely is cow hocked.
Compared to Orwell.
In movement the hocks seems to straiten out, can he maintain this over distance ?
In judging G S D's ,the judge works the dogs by walking and running them.
He then looks at the condition of the topline and hocks.
If any dog is not in good condition ,you will find the back giving way and the hocks
will not stand firm.
Sometimes exercise can help.

 Thanks Sonora,

Xaro is cow hocked, I believe that is obvious and easy to spot though he goes straight but again as you said remains to see if he could maintain that over distance.
I didn't notice Orwell's left elbow problem before, but I went back and watched the video again and yes he moves it out his body and limbs on it.
So now I have two with a left elbow problem Erri and Orwell, in the few coming days I shall restrict their movement and action, give them some rest and then I will check their elbows again, maybe even make new videos and show to you.
So we will wait for Rik to see if he wants to add something and then we will move to type.

Regards
Ibrahim

 I have been thinking about those elbows and I'm worried the problem could be a serious one, any suggestions, no vet here made x rays for OFA before, so no previous knowledge.

Ibrahim

Only have a sec... but a couple points... Ric is right on the rear feet staying close to the ground. If a Dog is moving with a less angulated rear than front they may kick up to gain some distance in each stride rather than having the foot move smoothly from the backwards drive back under the body as far as it can go to begin the next stride..  You'll see the same with lack of angle in the shoulder... a dog will hackney gait to keep his front end lifted farther while taking in the stronger drive of a well angled rear....  Again slow motion and stop action is the best way to see this for yourself with each dog.

#4... Personally I feel that too much blame is placed on length in the stifle and not enough focus is placed on the support system that holds it all together.  While it's true that the longer that bone the stronger support is  needed.. the bone isn't the sole cause of the problem.

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Keep asking these kind of well though out questions PLEASE... it's what the Data Base SHOULD be for, rather than bickering.  Trying to explain something  physical in words is a challenge, but the more people who try the more clarity will come... and we won't always agree... but that's okay.  It's what keeps the breed healthy

 windwalker18, you are a blessing, I think I understand what you say, thank you.

Ibrahim

Hi Ibrahim,

Maybe someone in the veternary profession , or those in this board,
with similar problems could help out .

First you need to verify the issue .