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by Gustav on 12 December 2010 - 18:12

Jenni and Frank both of you see the world of German Shepherds as I see it.

OGBS

by OGBS on 13 December 2010 - 03:12

Daryl,
My post was only meant as a little humor, as in, dogs "from an evil neighborhood" should be tough!
Sorry you missed it, but, I think most got it.

darylehret

by darylehret on 13 December 2010 - 03:12

No worries, either way it still had a humorous effect.


Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 13 December 2010 - 03:12

 Elkoorr....what can I say? I try. LOL

Gustav, great minds think alike;-)

OGBS...I got it. :-)

OGBS

by OGBS on 13 December 2010 - 03:12

Daryl,
Do you know how the auction (<--shamless plug) to help Steph at Montana GSD and Malinois Rescue is going?

darylehret

by darylehret on 13 December 2010 - 04:12

Sorry, I don't know.  Steph hasn't kept in touch lately.


by Sam Spade on 13 December 2010 - 04:12

Jenni78 I read what you post and it sounds like you breed. What sport do you train and assess the dogs you breed? I like serious dog and sounds like you produce this. Where do you train? I live near Chicago.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 13 December 2010 - 14:12

 Sam, I'm near Chicago. Email or PM me and I'll tell you where I live if you'd like to come visit. I can also tell you a few people you might know who have worked my dogs, though I firmly believe, as Frank touched on earlier in this thread, that sport is not the best way to find and/or evaluate such dogs, as the way the sport (SchH primarily) has evolved, some of the toughest dogs are not going to be the high-scoring dogs. 

I don't breed much, but almost all of my pups are in working homes and some are in clubs w/pretty well-respected helpers who could also give a good assessment of their temperaments. Gustav met one I bred, and as Elkoorr said, her boy is rather serious. I had someone wanting a sable male for a pet/low level club sport home, but gave them their deposit back and sent Apache to her. Sounds like it's a good thing I did that! LOL

Seriously, stop by if you're in my area. I can never find enough people locally to talk shop with ;-)



by tenmon on 13 December 2010 - 19:12

I have visited Jenni's website and looked at pictures of her dogs and was very intrigued with her breeding phylosophy.  If that transcend into the end result, meaning the dogs that she sends out, then I have no doubt in my mind that she is putting out some serious dogs. 
Sorry about the misinterpretation Prager, I got it!  Frank, your comments were right on the button.  Thanks for your insight. 
one other thing about this bloodhound, when he "decided" to leave my property, there was such a smuggley ?? look on his face when he left. He had such a confident walk, tail was up, stutting off in such a way as if to say when he glanced back, "you want some more of this!" that kinda attitude.  Pure confidence!

I know they are out there guys and I just hope we are not getting too lost in the "sport" mindedness of our selection of the dogs that we misinterpret all these high drive dogs competing  to be all serious tough dogs. Just look at all the ads on this site for puppies or even older dogs for sale.  Working lines,  east/west, all these mesmerizing adjectives that  one buying any of them is saying "wow" I have the real stuff here just to be disappointed in the end. 

I'm curious though, for you individuals that do sell your puppies, what have been the main intention of the purchaser?  Is it that they are looking for a pet, a sports dog or a family dog?  Are they saying that I want a serious, tough dog to protect my family and property.  If so, how do you customize your selection to fill that order?  What are your criteria or guidelines that you can seriously look into a buyer's eyes and say, "this little one will be a serious tough dog when he grows up!"  From what I've read above, not all the puppies are going to be tough dogs, maybe a couple out of a litter, so then how do you select this tough dog to be out of a bunch of 7 puppies?  Prager, you do this as a business, when a person comes to you and say I want a puppy that when it is fully grown is going to be a tough/serious family dog, how do you select this.  Do you say that I have only tough dogs for sale?  Or what? 

Anyone reading this thread and is in the market for a dog/puppy with this attribute, is coming away saying, wow, they are out there.  But where?  How can I guarantee that what I'm buying is really going to be a dog of this calibre?  A dog with such confidence that it will not backdown from a threat? etc.


OGBS

by OGBS on 13 December 2010 - 20:12

Tenmon,
Look at the Komondor from Hungary.
It will do everything that you are looking for and won't give a rats ass about Schutzhund.





 


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