Hessel daughter back on Craigslist - Page 8

Bhall:   I am so sorry you had to find out about your dog in such an awful manner.   It had to be quite a shock.  It's obvious you cared a great deal for Hessel. 

I think the "Deathcamp" bs should stop on this issue.

mods should have already stepped in and put a stop to this.  unless someone was there, and knows exactly what happened to this dog, and the condition of Vickie's other dogs, they should not comment negatively.

everyone here should know shit happens, and it happens to the best out there.

Is Vicki innocent? no she's not. but I think she's in a rough spot in her life at the moment, and the last thing she needs is to have couch jockies sitting behind a computer talking rumors and pulling the "deathcamp" card.

all these years, I've seen her place her dogs 1 time, been sold a male with a genetic heart defect, and now Hessel died which something that could have stricken down any of ya'lls dogs.

I got basically the same email, Jenni.  I'm still waiting to hear back from her as to  what it is that I said that was untrue, and when I do hear from her I will be sure and clear up anything that I posted that wasn't true. 

got an email wanting me to clarify what I meant by saying Vicki isn't innocent.

well, as everyone has read her previous postings, she has a habit of saying harsh things to people.  whether they have been true or not, I don't know.  but she's not helped her image at all by some of her rants.  thats what I mean when I say she is not innocent.

did it imply she caused or asked for her situation, whether at home or socially? no,
but her rants are what led to being banned. 

Vickie's problems have nothing to do with her rants, although they can be telling at times.  If there is nothing to hide, she should have all of the documentation and have no problem forwarding any and all of it to the owners of the dogs she has not paid for in full.  That would go a long way to improving her image, IF she has the documentation to back it up.  She has many stories and is always crying about something, while dodging the issues at hand.  If Vickie is innocent, Vickie can prove it, it's very simple.  But, I'm guaranteeing there will just be one more excuse and more stalling tactics to follow, as usual.

Wow...I can't believe this sh*t is still going on....someone needs an a** kicking. Shameful!

Well I have been very patient and waited on the vet report.  Of course there is no vet report because Hessel was sick but was never taken to the vet.  Animal Control also gave her 2 citation for failure to provide food and water. 
RIP Hessel and forgive me......

I'm not surprised, but it still makes me really sad.

Of course not, Bhall. You'll get that report when the proper report for Athos is presented. I think it will be sometime shortly before hell freezes. I am so sorry this happened. I know how I would feel if I put a dog in that situation. I am sincerely sorry for what you're going through. 

My guess (based on very reliable information from SEVERAL local sources) is that either he was sick and she did nothing, or he died of something related to the elements, no food/water, shelter, heat/cold, or something else of that nature. 

Uber, I agree with you on principle. But when I asked her direct questions, they were ignored. Imagine that. She pleads with me to change "how I and others feel about her" yet when I ask things that might change that..........silence. We all have personal shit happen. It doesn't always involve dogs dying, being stolen/not paid for, not given food and water (and do you all realize much of this is PUBLIC RECORD?), crazy rants on the boards, puppies for sale when she claims to have none (of several different breeds, by the way, and listed under different kennel names), and just general shadiness.

These people are all the same; it's always someone else's fault. She's a loose cannon and I wouldn't trust her not to do terrible things to both dogs and people. Just look at her temper. Look at the rant when I told her the best thing she could do for Birgit was to stop associating herself with her. Remember the meltdown and the threats? My personal information (which the genius didn't realize could be taken off my website, lol, I'm not exactly hard to find) and all that? It was removed quickly, but c'mon...she's a loose cannon. NO dog deserves to be in her "care". 

Anyone who doubts Vickie deserves this shit storm and more can simply Google her full name, telephone number, email address, etc. It's all right there, but be aware, you'll need the better part of the day to get through it all.  She's a simple con-artist piece of trash. 

Birgit, my heart breaks for you...and for any dog still having to endure there.  This was just not right, but I'm sure if you could have known, you never would have sent Hessel there.

Vickie, whether or not everything that's gone wrong is your own fault or not, you still have one last chance to redeem your soul.  If you immediately place every dog that's still in your possession (whether the dogs are with you or at someone else's place) and return the ones that belong(ed) to somebody else, and then STAY OUT OF DOGS ENTIRELY until you've got your life fixed again, people may be willing to forgive you one day.  If you continue to deny the situation, and what's been happening to these dogs once they fall into your hands, then there's truly no hope for you, and you're no better than the devil's own scat...