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by Preston on 08 July 2011 - 22:07

Breaking news.  Los Zetas kingpin says "we bought guns directly from US Govt".

http://www.prisonplanet.com/los-zetas-kingpin-we-bought-guns-directly-from-u-s-government.html 


Sock, I hope you watch me post and I sincerely hope you read, study and research the experts statements and the docs I reference.  If you want to call posting what experts have stated and docs which show that there is creeping Govt tyranny here in the USA, I disagree with your characerization.  I call it first amendment free speech.

Now how about focusing on the references, docs and experts cityed and doing some thorough research and then stating your opinion which you are certyainly entitled to and welcome to post here.

Yes, I admit I kicked the rock by posting some hd truth from accepted experts, and what your and some others response was what I was told to expect.  Anger, hostility and ad hominem attacks, intermixed with red herrings, speciousness, casuistry and sphistry rather than an honest discussion of the issue of creeping govt tyranny producing the 911 false flag/stand-down attacks and also continuing to produce the new American Gerstapo, homeland security based on the consultant Markus Wolfe, ex head of the feared east german stasi (whicjk all experts say specialized in tyranny), and further being used to justify and as a pretext for originating and fighting five current undeclared, illegal, unConstitutional wars and now clear violations of the war powers act with Pakistan, Libya and Yemen.


by beetree on 08 July 2011 - 22:07

Now, specious is the word I was going to use! I notice that all the time. So many times when there is a disagreement, the feuding parties accuse each other of the exact same thing. Preston, I have checked on  occassion, the source of your chosen experts, and there is ALWAYS that bit of speciousness.

by Preston on 08 July 2011 - 22:07

Sock, how about reading, studying, and fully researching the claims of the experts I have cited and the doc?  Is that so hard?  Then lets discuss them in detail. Go ahead and focus on me if you wish.  I could care less. Why not come up with your own experts who are highly credible that reflect your views, if you actually have any and don't just want to argue and appear obstinate. I will do the same for them.

I think there are quite a few readers of these posts that want to examine the views of experts that do not make the controlled mass media news (Govt propaganda mils of the major mass media).

Now let's move on to some more interesting matters.

And now back on the subject at hand, creeping Govt tyranny.  How about this case where a lady is charged with the serious crime of daring to grow her own vegetables.
How dare she
!!!!

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/julie-bass-of-oak-park-faces-misdemeanor-charge-for-vegetable-garden-20110630-wpms 

Sock Puppet

by Sock Puppet on 08 July 2011 - 22:07


Ninja181

by Ninja181 on 08 July 2011 - 22:07

Those could definitely be SP's eyes, they only look to the far left.

Never look right of center.

by Preston on 08 July 2011 - 22:07

Sorry Sock, nice try.  Another distraction.  You are trying valiantly to distract and avoid commenting on the subject at hand.  Are you afraid to read and comment on these experts and doc I have cited?  Yes, I know it can be very scary to face the observation that many experts think the US Govt has creeping tyranny and is nazifing right before our very eyes gradually like Naomi Wolf has pointed out.  She is now considred one of the top experts on the nazification of the USA, as is Jim Marrs.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/apr/24/usa.comment 

Let's face it none of us are in the same league with the experts I have cited.  You and I are very small time, mere observers.  What we think doesn't really matter to the masses like these experts and docs I have cited.  It is what the experts say, and the evidence, and value of the related docs that exist.

Now let's read and discuss Naomi Wolf's ten sign of nazification or creeping tyranny in America. Perhaps then we can go to Jim Marrs excellent book, the Rise of the Fourth Reich http://astore.amazon.com/jimmarcom07-20/images/0061245593 

Jim Marrs wrote the highly recognized and regarded book, Crossfire, which formed the basis of the movie JFK.    

Then perhaps we can deal with Naomi Klein's respected masterpiece, The Shock Doctrine, on the practice of the US Govt using shock economics to create globalist oriented social change.  http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine 

by beetree on 08 July 2011 - 22:07

You boys haven't settled your tiff yet???? Geeze. Is this going to be a LOOOOOng feud?  Does someone have to get out of DODGE (PDB)? or can you guys ignore the crap out of each other... or maybe let bygones be bygones?

by Preston on 08 July 2011 - 23:07

No fued for me, I have replaced the rock since I saw what jumped out at the messenger. 

Now my task at hand is to merely present references to experts and more docs for purposes of discussion.

Could another false flag/standown inside job "gladio style" self inflicted wound be in the planning stages right now?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/will-nato-resurrect-operation-gladio-to-frame-gaddafi.html 

You can google "operation gladio" if you never heard of it before.  It was a big deal in Italy and the govt of italy giot caught doing false flags on their own citizeens like the 7/7 false flag/standown atacks in London and the others in Spain.

By the way, sock I like the moving eyes.  Very good. 

by beetree on 08 July 2011 - 23:07

Sorry Preston, I didn't mean you. Sock and Ninja have an on-going beef.
You, I  have to just let ramble on, you have a need for it and that's okay by me, since if anyone does do as you ask and checks out your lifesworks compilation of specious sources and topics, they are readily, and obviously confronted with "the Problem".





Sock Puppet

by Sock Puppet on 08 July 2011 - 23:07

We do? I think it is all one sided, but that is my opinion.






 


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