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by keepthefaith on 13 June 2009 - 23:06
The devout person who has the greatest impact on others is the one who demonstrates his/her beliefs and convictions in the way he/she behaves in the context of what they offer their families, communities and the world.
For example, Mother Teresa had more impact in India specifically and the rest of the world by her self-sacrifice and love for the people to whom she ministered. I know of Hindus who have the utmost admiration for her because she lived her faith - some were persuaded to embrace Christianity by virtue of her example. She did not need to preach and cite verses from the Bible ad nauseum because she LIVED her faith as opposed to TALK about it.
I would be surprised if Raymond has swayed a single individual by his constant diatribes and biblical citations. I am a Christian but I would never take it on myself to tell others that they will not achieve salvation because of their religious beliefs. I leave such decisions to the Almighty. No one should take it on themselves to act as a proxy for God.
As I read the total conviction and certainty with which Raymond expresses his religious convictions and his sense of moral righteousness, I am reminded of Osama bin Laden who also expresses total conviction and certainty in the righteousness of his cause and his faith and how all the infidels are to be condemned. I am not comparing Raymond to OBL - but their religious and moral certainty have a common thread.
Raymond - this is EXACTLY what you posted on another thread:
"Gangbangers get a bullet ;drug dealers get two'political corruption and graft get a public neck tie party! Rapists get raped with a telephone pole! Abortionist get some of the same they dished out( forceps to the back of the head and a strong jerk) Pedophilles get roasted at the public weinie roast! Plain swift retribution."
You would fit right in with the Wahabi version of Islam practised by the Taliban. Public hangings, cut the arm of someone who steals, stone the woman who commits adultery, etc!
Are you sure you are a Christian?
For example, Mother Teresa had more impact in India specifically and the rest of the world by her self-sacrifice and love for the people to whom she ministered. I know of Hindus who have the utmost admiration for her because she lived her faith - some were persuaded to embrace Christianity by virtue of her example. She did not need to preach and cite verses from the Bible ad nauseum because she LIVED her faith as opposed to TALK about it.
I would be surprised if Raymond has swayed a single individual by his constant diatribes and biblical citations. I am a Christian but I would never take it on myself to tell others that they will not achieve salvation because of their religious beliefs. I leave such decisions to the Almighty. No one should take it on themselves to act as a proxy for God.
As I read the total conviction and certainty with which Raymond expresses his religious convictions and his sense of moral righteousness, I am reminded of Osama bin Laden who also expresses total conviction and certainty in the righteousness of his cause and his faith and how all the infidels are to be condemned. I am not comparing Raymond to OBL - but their religious and moral certainty have a common thread.
Raymond - this is EXACTLY what you posted on another thread:
"Gangbangers get a bullet ;drug dealers get two'political corruption and graft get a public neck tie party! Rapists get raped with a telephone pole! Abortionist get some of the same they dished out( forceps to the back of the head and a strong jerk) Pedophilles get roasted at the public weinie roast! Plain swift retribution."
You would fit right in with the Wahabi version of Islam practised by the Taliban. Public hangings, cut the arm of someone who steals, stone the woman who commits adultery, etc!
Are you sure you are a Christian?
by Mystere on 14 June 2009 - 02:06
There ARE some true christians out there. I know a few of them. A few have even shwon themselves on this thread. You and the cheese are not among them.
Compassion--ever heard of that? Or, is that anathema to your version of "christianity"? Nevermind, I really don't care. Steve is right, we should let leave these two to their own devices...in every sense of the word.
by BabyEagle4U on 14 June 2009 - 02:06
Dear God,
If your listening. Please bless America again, as you know we have us a serious problem. Thanks for all the rain, my flowers and crops look fabulous. Bless all those following this textbyte tonight June 13, 2009. Thanks for everything as always.
In Jesus name, Amen.
If your listening. Please bless America again, as you know we have us a serious problem. Thanks for all the rain, my flowers and crops look fabulous. Bless all those following this textbyte tonight June 13, 2009. Thanks for everything as always.
In Jesus name, Amen.
by beetree on 14 June 2009 - 02:06
I just reread some parts of this thread and want to reply to Raymond's idea of a critique on a book he never read.
RAYMOND, read the the FICTIONAL book, "The Shack", it is a lovely affirmation of the GRACE of GOD, explained by the Holy Trinity; portrayed as GOD, A happy cooking Black Woman, JESUS, his handicrafting son, and an Asian gardener, the Holy Spirit.
What I got from reading the book, and what you got from reading the TITLE, is beyond comparison.
RAYMOND, read the the FICTIONAL book, "The Shack", it is a lovely affirmation of the GRACE of GOD, explained by the Holy Trinity; portrayed as GOD, A happy cooking Black Woman, JESUS, his handicrafting son, and an Asian gardener, the Holy Spirit.
What I got from reading the book, and what you got from reading the TITLE, is beyond comparison.
by JRANSOM on 14 June 2009 - 03:06
beetree,
I read that book! Very well written. Loved it. Really made you think! I guess I'm a skeptic though. Look around you in the world today.
I read that book! Very well written. Loved it. Really made you think! I guess I'm a skeptic though. Look around you in the world today.
by JRANSOM on 14 June 2009 - 03:06
There is alot more I could say but I'll leave it to my last post as this is a dog forum and I'll not post anymore to anything else.
Just got caught up in it. Sorry.
by JRANSOM on 14 June 2009 - 03:06
Sorry. No, I will post , just not to the religious and political post any more.
Jen
by raymond on 14 June 2009 - 15:06
Shall we all examine our ideas and morality along with our precepts of God and conduct within this verse? 2 Timothy chapter 3 verse16 " All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine,for reproof,for correction,for instruction in righteousness. So this verse destroys the high ideals and beliefs that the majority of you posess ! Mr Steve on two different documented instances shew his desire to do another bodily harm and now is a trusted field partner as well as a good deed doer who has been idolized by the masses? Now you ask about compassion! A virtue I have failed to see out of most on this board! I state several biblical truths here and what compassion has been shown me? When gods word calls you what you are you have no compassion but wish it shown you for your hatefull and threatening words! Now will youir attitude carry into any dog related questions I may ask? Yes I feel it will for the compassion you cry for you do not have!
by Mystere on 14 June 2009 - 15:06
I have no compassion FOR YOU, because I generally have no compassion for excretory effluvium.
Jen is correct--there is no point responding to non DOG-RELATED topics. I have always generally avoided any involvement in the political threads. Now, I should also eschew highjacked by the religious fringe, as well.
Adieu!!! (That's irony, btw)
by wuzzup on 14 June 2009 - 16:06
God if you can hear me please make this thread disapear with the other one . And one more thing God let the Rat eat the Cheese
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