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by Preston on 06 July 2011 - 23:07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU2n1UiY3I0
By the way this is actually a real video and has been documented that this is Dr. Pieczeniks actual voice.
Here is another REAL document for your consideration. It is on the now declassified top secret "Operation Northwoods".
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NorthwoodsMemorandum.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1
Okay, this Op Northwoods doc is the real thing aand has been validated and cross validated. Whether you like me or not slam or think I am a whack job has nothing to do with whether these docs are real or not or what they mean. they are self explanatory. This is basic philosophy of logic, evaluate the idea on ipso facto. By the way if you think Dr. Pieczenik is a whackjob, say so, or if you think he is lying say so.

by ggturner on 06 July 2011 - 23:07
The word is spelled hominem (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ad%2Bhominem)--this has been bothering me for awhile. Preston has many spelling errors for such a "learned" individual.
Also, this term has "ad" in front of "hominen." Here are some examples on how to use "ad hominem" in a sentence: http://sentence.yourdictionary.com/ad-hominem.
Sorry, Preston, but the teacher in me is coming out (private school teacher by the way, so I can't possibly be a "type 2" since I don't work for a government agency--not even a public school).

by BabyEagle4U on 07 July 2011 - 00:07
RE: Jose Guerena murder opposed by Brian Miller Pima County GOP, talks police brutality in his state Arizona. Thank YOU Adam !!
by Preston on 07 July 2011 - 00:07
If you were a good student in Logic in teachers college you should understand what this means and how you have been using it. Now let's get into the Finders documents, the Operation Northwoods Documents and discuss Dr. Steve Pieczenik's claims.
Once we get these matters worked out perhaps we can get into the really hd info?
By the way gg, did I claim to be "such a learned" individual? Where did you come up with that?
by Preston on 07 July 2011 - 01:07
http://www.infowars.com/poll-shows-most-travelers-will-forgo-flying-to-avoid-scanner-radiation/

by Slamdunc on 07 July 2011 - 02:07
I am only familiar with Steve Pieczenik's fictional books, I am a big Tom Clancy fan. So I really can't comment on anything else he has written. I am not going to share my thoughts or feelings on any of your conspiracies or my views on the US government here. I will mention that I think a vast amount of your sources are bogus and have provided examples. This all started with your erroneous comments on SWAT tactics and what happened in the original topic. We can disagree on some things and we may agree on others. But I am not getting into a conversation or debate with you on the things that you post that do not relate to the original topic.
by Preston on 07 July 2011 - 02:07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2btoI8P5giI&feature=related
Another case of creeping tyranny when an officer with a problem harasses an EMT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KluItc365hU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WMSNXCzoZM&feature=related
The infamous Bart case. Bad all around for victim and police too.
Another byproduct of massive societal decay, recession and creeping tyranny do to massive unmitigated Govt corruption and major stress on police officers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFfayVCULBU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0P8TSP2YJU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkvRpIC0E3A&feature=related

by Slamdunc on 07 July 2011 - 02:07
Have you ever been described as being "passive-aggressive?"
by Preston on 07 July 2011 - 02:07
Now until you listen to this, your comments about 911 have no credibility at all. For an educated person you seem to be doing everything you can to throw out red herrings, ad hominem attacks, and violating standard rules of logic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU2n1UiY3I0
Listen and then lets discuss it. If you think Dr. Pieczenik is lying or a dishonorable person for making these allegations and naming the actual perps of 911 (except for the AF General), say so right up front. By the way many of us know who the AF general is. It is actually quite well known as are most of the perps who planned it. What few know is the name of the subcontractor that ran the avionics.
And I made a well documented case that bad swat raids by militarized police are a result of the creeping tyranny being generated by our Federal Govt using the 911 false flag/standown attack as an excuse to pass the unConstitutional Patriot Act, the UnConstitutional Military Commissions act and trash the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. I made a good case that high Govt, intel and alphabet crimes such as massive illegal trafficking in narcotics into the US and massive trafficking in guns to the drug cartels directly contributes to this creeping tyranny. Look, it's just not that difficult to understand. There is massive proof that hese high Govt crimes are occurring now unabated (govt doc, hearing testimony, court transcripts eg WPLG case in Miami, Finders, Fast & Furious, Operation Northwoods, and many many more pieces of valid evidence). I explained how the ikllegal drugs are brought in as "controlled deliveries", cited actual cases from real informants inside the system and even explained various cases of proven related alphabet corruption such as proven by Dr. Phillip Whitehurst, Darlene Kinsey, Donald Rochon, Sibel Edwards, and Colleen Rowley (woman of the year). This evidence is overwhelming and if you say it doesn't exist you are disengenuine imo.

by Slamdunc on 07 July 2011 - 03:07
I've made no comments on 911 and I have no intention of commenting on it................... Especially, of all places on an international dog forum.
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