CZECH LINE HIP SCORES - Page 6

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darylehret

by darylehret on 16 January 2011 - 16:01

So, are those dutch ratings nonexistant on dutch pedigrees, or is only in the practice of grading them such outdated?

Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 16 January 2011 - 16:01

"I know what I know about cheating..."

I think it would take quite a leap of faith to assume the pre-1989 information on a lot of pedigrees from eastern bloc countries is accurate.

by duke1965 on 16 January 2011 - 16:01

the dutch ratings used to be   FREE
                                                TC (transitional case)
                                                 LP  (light positive) still within breeding terms
                                                  +   positive
                                                  ++  severe positive

in that time hardly any dog received FREE , from the best dogs still 99 of 100 would receive TC , but all TC  dogs that were experted and redone in USA  received OFA exelent , in germany became Anormal

now for many many years they changed the rating to A-B-C and D    and stopped being very strict , so now more dogs receive HD A

in your chart TC is the same as fair or borderline , but in all the years many many TC dogs all got OFA exelent rating
big , big difference

darylehret

by darylehret on 16 January 2011 - 16:01

Difficult to believe when only 4% of gsd's are even awarded "Excellent" ratings.

But again, if the "old scheme" is found on current pedigrees, then the information is not useless.  The chart can be modified to show both schemes, as the Czech & Slovak one does.

by duke1965 on 16 January 2011 - 16:01

daryll , most dogs im talking about are bouviers , but hips are hips , no matter wat breed is around it

furthermorethe old sceme is useless
Actual findings show that TC dogs get OFA exelent , where your chart says they WILL get fair or borderline
you dont notice any difference

keith , one of the dangers of internet , I should have put a big black dot after I know what I know.
then a new scentence,
about cheating , this happens everywhere

katesgillkennels

by katesgillkennels on 16 January 2011 - 18:01

I dont want people argueing over I post I started ,I want help to understand what has happened with the hips of a certain dog,scored in 1 country ,exported to another to be given a real bad deal on that countries scoring,my personal opinion is the whole world should have one scoring to be recognised.

by duke1965 on 16 January 2011 - 18:01

different people have different opinions ,thats only natural

katesgillkennels

by katesgillkennels on 16 January 2011 - 18:01

I understand what you are sayin

Prager

by Prager on 16 January 2011 - 21:01

Duke,
how do you submit same xray to different outfits for evaluation when the x ray stays with the registry.?



Keith.
I think it would take quite a leap of faith to assume the pre-1989 information on a lot of pedigrees from eastern bloc countries is accurate.

Well you think wrong. I know quit a bit about evaluating hips during this era. I know some of  the people who have done it. The ones I know  are painfully honest. What is your proof for  such sweeping statement?
Or are you just stirring a pot ?
 Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com

Prager

by Prager on 16 January 2011 - 21:01

Also I am not saying that people = breeders do not cheat even so I would not know how since each dog is tattooed and the tattoo must be marked on the x ray. I am sure that some do. But the official evaluators do the best possible job. Also keep in mind that reading hips is not exact science and it is widely influenced by personal interpretation. However I would never go as far as to call the evaluators cheaters
Prager Hans





 


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