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I'm sure the person I referred to probably completed her probation period successfully, and therefore the criminal charges against her *were removed from her record*--but that does not equate with the charges 'being dropped'. 

The problem lies, as hodie has pointed out, in the way the laws are written and the sentencing guidelines are set.  WHY should the charges be removed from a person's record just because they complete probation and pay their fine?  One's actions speak to one's character, and while I want to believe that this person will never repeat this action again, I also know that I will never place anything I value in her care because I have the benefit of knowing her past.  The same goes for the people in Colorado that generated this thread--if the Colorado courts hand down a similar penalty to them, then the time will come when an unsuspecting person may place the life of a being they value in the hands of these people as well. 

We need the laws to not only hold people accountable for their actions, but which also will allow others to make an informed decision as to how much trust they ought place in another. Expunging a record when the actions of the convicted resulted in the death of another being should not be considered acceptable.

My problem with the breeder - Jennifer - who killed two dogs in the hot closed truck, one dog not her own - is not that she made a mistake, forgot to open the windows and left the truck closed up in the sun, forgot about the dogs in the truck while she chatted away in the air conditioned building with her friends - because all of that was certainly not intentional and everyone makes mistakes, even though this particular mistake was a very big one resulting in the death of two dogs due to her negligence and stupidity.  My problem isn't that.  My problem is that she not only made every excuse in the book about why she was not at fault - her story changed many times and the "facts" all turned out to be lies and excuses.  My problem is, she never did admit she was to blame.  And worse, she blamed others - the "black kids" who were "seen in the area" and who must have closed the windows that she  most certainly left open.  THAT IMO is inexcusable and a very good reason why this person should not be trusted to own dogs or sell puppies to anyone who expects honesty from their breeder.

molly

Exactly and the same problem I have with that DDR Janice person.  She blamed everyone under the sun, and to this day has taken no resposibility for what she did.  Some say let these sleeping dogs lie, these people have paid their debt to society and I would wholeheartedly agree IF THOSE PARTIES WOULD STAND UP AND ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS INSTEAD OF BLAMING OTHERS.  What's that old saying about you can't change what you don't acknowledge?  Otherwise history is bound to repeat itself, and once more the poor dogs will be the ones who ultimately pay.

Jennifer's kennel name is Vom Haus Huro. Before she bred GSDs, she bred "Border Retrievers". The thing that gets me is that her and her cronies bash my Working line boy over and over again, Funny cause He is 3 years old and has NEVER had a litter even though he has all health testing done and is working towards his Schutzhund titles. It just pisses me off. They can't even bash him under their own names, they have to use fake ones. Cowards! 

I agree with Molly and Sue. If more people kept these stories and names at the top of people's minds, they wouldn't be peddling the amount of puppies that they are peddling. Until the laws are tougher and follow through on animal crimes, there will be no change.

In my town, there was a seizure of 450 American Eskimo dogs, 95% of them all in bad BAD shape. Her sentence was that she can not own animals for 5 years and had to pay a fine as well as is on probation. These dogs looked worse than puppy mill dogs you see and that was all she got as a punishment. Same kinda deal with Brittany's Gentle Giants in Goldendale, WA, I'm not sure of the outcome exactly on that one but it was deplorable and she'll get a slap on the wrist.

SilverJudge,

The only person whose thoughts about your dog matters is you. If you choose to show a dog in SV style conformation, yes, the good points as well as faults will be pointed out. You are correct, there is no perfect dog, and even those who know the standard would strongly disagree on what makes a conformationally correct dog (within the standard). What is important is to learn enough to know what faults and traits one's dog possesses, so as to not be "kennel blind" as so many are. But in terms of what others think, forget it. Do your best to do right by your dog and be happy with that effort and the love the dog and you have for each other. Nothing else matters.

 Sue's right. I said somewhere, I think it was earlier in this thread, that the problem is the complacency, and the "forgiveness." I don't see how we can forgive someone who won't acknowledge that animals suffered miserably and died in their "care." Do the dogs care if their abuser would pass a psych eval? 

Until people truly are as shocked and appalled as they ACT, and behave accordingly, this kind of stuff won't end. So many people are insistent upon forgiving that they seem to forget the suffering these people caused innocent animals. 

I don't have a forgiving bone in my body when it comes to something like this.  People are so incredibly stupid and should be punished for not using their heads for something besides a hatrack.  Bad enough to commit such horrible acts on innocents but to then deny it and or blame it on someone else is pathetic.  We need laws with teeth and we need to raise hell until we get them.  These people should not be getting a slap on the wrist.  They should be getting serious penalties and be stopped from owning dogs (or other poor animals).  And their children should be taken from them if they can't do any better with their kids.  Sad, sad state of affairs. 

Here's my take on it and I am going to be pretty blunt.  There are plenty of people who are outraged at the acts of cruelty to animals we see in today's society and the perceived lack of justice in the court system.  Lots of talk about how laws need to be changed and something has to be done.   But when it comes down to actually drafting, lobbying, and educating on new legislation, people disappear. 

I was at the state capitol last session lobbying for bills that would strengthen our animal cruelty statutes and I will likely be up there again in this coming session.  But when the rubber hits the road, the vast majority of people who complain about the sad state of animal cruelty laws in our country don't leave their computers long enough to assist in changing those laws.

Get involved.  Check out what bills your state might have in an upcoming session.  See none that address the problem?  No big deal, start brainstorming and get your own bill language going!  You don't need to be a lawyer or a rocket scientist to do so.  People will help you along the way if you just ask.  In the last week I have spent nearly 5 hours assisting individuals drafting animal legislation bills.  I am sure that will be a drop in the bucket as the session starts to unfold.  The point is that if you wait around for someone else to change the law, you might die before the change occurs ;-)