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by Rik on 17 December 2010 - 18:12
The only dominance I would want to see established is mine. Every dog does not give in at just a growl or a snap. There are those who will fight until they are stopped or severe injury stops them.
In this situation, there was a large difference in size, which could have resulted in the small dog being killed if he was too tough to give in immediately or felt he was protecting his family.
Rik

by MaggieMae on 17 December 2010 - 18:12
Rik - I agree 100%
by Donald Deluxe on 17 December 2010 - 19:12
But it is clear that there would not have been a dogfight or a woman being bitten had the loose dog been confined, and it's no defense to liability to the woman who was bitten to say "But you assumed the risk of injury by trying to break up a dogfight."

by Tantra on 17 December 2010 - 19:12
I think that dog was clear headed enough to realize that real threat is the lady and not the terrier which still makes me believe he would have let the terrier go.
If you are going to get involved in the fight rather grab the dogs back legs pulling him away and swinging him in another directions.
Rik how would you establish dominance over your dog if he snaps and growls at you? I just had a thought running threw my mind that we baby our dogs way to much. It is things a couple people were saying a couple of months back on here to a poster that placed a pic of his dog jumping really high for his toy. Some people were telling him they wouldnt allow there dogs to jump like that... HUH?!?! The guys response was my dogs dont live in a bubble... something to that affect and i thought well done.

by LadyFrost on 17 December 2010 - 19:12
I was taught by my uncle who was a marine if a dog is going to bite you make a fist and plunge it into a dogs mouth...I was attacked by a dog when I was 7.....I was attacked by a German Shepherd loose on the country road in front of my grandparents house..dog was barking and running towards me..all I remember was making a fist and stretching the arm out and aiming for dogs throat...I believe it hit the dog in the back of the throat...dog retrieved very quickly caughing and all I had left was one puncture wound now scar on my right wrist which is still visible...if I did not do that I am sure I would have been mauled to death...
recently when my neighbors pit bull got in with my dogs...(i should have shot it) but I grabbed a small metal shower (as I was getting roots out for the winter at that moment in my front yard) and showed the fat wooden handle into its mouth and almost got the whole thing all the way in...he retrieved and could not even cough it up..he left with my shovel just end of it sticking out of his mouth...fight lasted maybe 15 seconds no real damage to my dog...if i did not have a shovel I probably would have stuck my hand and closed off air flow with a fist or if you grab their tongue they usually gag....i know not everyone is brave to do that but when you have no other option I rather cut the whole ordeal short with one action than have flesh torn on my dogs or myself...

by Don Corleone on 17 December 2010 - 19:12

by Tantra on 17 December 2010 - 20:12
Im glad you didnt get hurt.

by CrysBuck25 on 17 December 2010 - 22:12
My post was as well thought out as all of my posts are. From what the woman herself said I got the scenario I mentioned..But who knows what happened?
I've seen a good many small dogs that loved to start fights with bigger dogs...Their owners treat them like little babies, and they have enough attitude to go with a much bigger dog. My old GSD Prince, who was a very friendly dog, was attacked by a JRT, and ran for his life...DId he start the problem? No. He went the other way. But a GSD with more guts wouldn't have reacted that way. We all know that.
I'm not interested in arguing with you; I am not interested in arguing with anyone. So I won't be responding to any further remarks.
The bottom line is, as I said, the GSD shouldn't have been loose. But whether he attacked the little dog first, or it attacked him first, we don't know. I firmly believe the owner is liable for medical bills, but beyond that, I don't really think so.
And as for that last remark about how I'd feel if it were myself or someone I cared about...I'd still believe that the owner is liable for medical bills, but nothing beyond the actual expenses involved. I just think lawsuits going for all these "pain and suffering" claims are full of hot air. If you were permanently disabled as a result, then maybe something beyond the medical, but not millions...Too many lawsuits that are frivolous..."I deserve money because I was traumatized by x event" is ridiculous.
Crys

by gsdsch3v on 18 December 2010 - 05:12
I have been bitten before and thanks to the incompetence of medical at that time got a nice infection that caused a weeks hospital time, and a month off work. I still have issues with the resultant scar tissue causing adhesions. I have also given birth. No most certainly did not hurt worse than child birth. Sorry but she sounds like a malingering wimp "it hurts worse than childbirth" and "i'm bedridden and cant even feed myself"
Part of the reason for outrageous insurance rates in this country is people milking the lawsuit gravy train. She should be entitled to reasonable medical compensation not an outrageous multimillion dollar award.

by Rik on 18 December 2010 - 06:12
I would have to rely on my dog hearing my voice to stop, but regardless, my only concern would be for my dog.
Tantra, I understand what you are saying, but a street fight with an unknown dog is very different from a squabble among close kennel mates or siblings.
Ears on my dogs are a precious thing to me.
Rik
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