Can american line be trained for protection?

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by Phil Behun on 01 December 2010 - 18:12

The photos above are training photos, how did it look on trial day? What were the scores like?

by Bob McKown on 01 December 2010 - 19:12

Any dog can be run off a field no matter what breed,sex,training every dog has a weakness but why is it necessary to prove a point ?.

I,m sure there is a exception to any rule so you may be able to find the exception in any line of dog. but why bother with so many better choices?

by Gemini on 01 December 2010 - 19:12

I agree with Bob. But for people that have an American line or any dog that they want invest the time and money to do any dog sport why not. I am not saying purchasing a Am. line for this purpose but dont avoid these things if you decide. I once saw on you tube police dept. trained a Jack Russell in sch. and watching him in the blind is something everyone will enjoy. If I thought my female would respond and enjoy the sch. training I would do it just for both of our experience.
Reggie

by Bob McKown on 01 December 2010 - 19:12

There is a big difference between Schutzhund and PPD. Let me make that perfectly clear. And a big difference between being able to "Do it" and do it well.

by Phil Behun on 01 December 2010 - 20:12

That's the key statement. People (breeders in particular) are in the habit of misleading or misrepresenting what they have for the purpose of making a sale. Advertising that a dog will perform a specific duty and do it well knowing full well that it probably won't is irresponsible. Sure many different breeds and types of dogs can do the sport but it's not fair to the dog or the handler to put it into something it's not suited for. Don't force your effeminate son who wants to be in the ballet to fight in the octagon,,,,,,,,,he's not only going to be embarrassed, but he's probably going to get killed.

by Don Corleone on 01 December 2010 - 20:12

Phil, that analogy brought tears to my eyes! I always wanted to be in the Nutcracker. I don't know what the big argument is. I'm sure you can do agility with a newfie, but why not get a dog better suited to the job. Go buy a min pin!

by Red Sable on 01 December 2010 - 20:12

Nutcracker, LOL. I wonder if they had a big laugh when they named it that. Well the girls anyway...

by Felloffher on 01 December 2010 - 20:12

Don,

Don't joke about the Min Pin, I have trained my wife's to attack on command. I pitty the fool that trys a home invasion here.

by Gemini on 01 December 2010 - 20:12

If an American line GSD has what it takes and the owner wants to why not. That is all I am saying. I played football on junior varsity my cousin played in the NFL. Should I have not played because I couldnt make it pro? There is a venue for everybody. Why do you think we have the Special Olympics (that didnt come out right.) lol Lets have fun with our dogs and enjoy them.
Reggie

by BlackthornGSD on 01 December 2010 - 20:12

The question was: can they do it? Not "are they the best?" Nor "can they do it better?" Not even "can they be run off by someone who's really trying?"

As was pointed out, almost any dog can be run off. We're not breeding "game to the death" GSDs--and it's not a breed requirement. So failing to be "game to the death" is not really a significant test of a GSD or a PPD--they are a deterrent, not a 1-size-fits-all solution.

I stand by my answer-- SOME can do it. Not many. Not most. But it's not unheard of, it's not impossible.

Would anyone recommend, "oh hey, I hear you're looking for a PPD--you should go get an Am-bred GSD!"? Not anyone who knew anything about protection work.

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