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by steve1 on 11 May 2010 - 08:05
Bazza
As far as I know you are more into the Showline side but my Post was not to find out and then spread anything on this board or anywhere else i did not deem correct if there was indeed anything to find,
I hope i am not graded as that sort of person, When it comes down to that sort of thing i would send a reply by PM if at all certainly not broadcast it on a Forum or anywhere else My post was purely out of Interest to me and nothing else
Steve1
As far as I know you are more into the Showline side but my Post was not to find out and then spread anything on this board or anywhere else i did not deem correct if there was indeed anything to find,
I hope i am not graded as that sort of person, When it comes down to that sort of thing i would send a reply by PM if at all certainly not broadcast it on a Forum or anywhere else My post was purely out of Interest to me and nothing else
Steve1
by bazza on 11 May 2010 - 09:05
Sorry Steve my stance on personal information still stands, I have seen too many times here how that can lead to trouble. I do not care who believes one word I type, it is the truth, always has been, always will be, believe or not, no skin off my nose really. There are many here know me on a personal level, trusted friends, who know I am a man of my word, the rest are just names on a internet chat room. They are not part of my life nor will they ever be, so do not need to know anything about my life. What it really boils down to is I trust a few here, a very few. I had GERMAN SHEPHERDS my Hobby was showing them, but that was a very small part of owning them.
by Bhaugh on 11 May 2010 - 15:05
This is OP from the post but someone mentioned where to go for "friendlier" people, Germanshepherd.com. I for one was bashed on that site and Ive never even been on it. Someone copied a pic of one of my rescue dogs (that I kept btw to trial with) then proceeded to slam my rescue that I had kep the dog to "show" him. I guess working the dog isnt calling showing anymore. Oops picked the wrong word
My point is that no site is safe from the bickering and name calling. That falls on the person posting and those who engage the behaviour. Even negative responses are attention to the name calling person.
I get where the poster is coming from and the old saying "Evil prevails when good men do nothing". Maybe the word choice was not the best from the poster but it received responses and perhaps that was the original intent.
I personally think that anyone who wants to breed dogs here in the states should be required to work at the shelter for a bit of time. No matter what the bloodlines, titles, etc ALL breeders are contributing to the over petpopulation. And if we want the luxury of being able to breed, then we ALL have to give back.
My point is that no site is safe from the bickering and name calling. That falls on the person posting and those who engage the behaviour. Even negative responses are attention to the name calling person.
I get where the poster is coming from and the old saying "Evil prevails when good men do nothing". Maybe the word choice was not the best from the poster but it received responses and perhaps that was the original intent.
I personally think that anyone who wants to breed dogs here in the states should be required to work at the shelter for a bit of time. No matter what the bloodlines, titles, etc ALL breeders are contributing to the over petpopulation. And if we want the luxury of being able to breed, then we ALL have to give back.
by jc.carroll on 11 May 2010 - 17:05
*puts on a flak jacket*
My opinion on out-of-standard colors: If there is not a case of health-problems being associated with a particular color factor, what's the harm? At least this breeder screens their dogs hips and elbows, and even admit that their goal is to: "produce... mentally and physically sound German Shepherd Dogs, some of which may have the fault of being the wrong color." [source]
There's no deception there; they even admit Liver and Blue are faults.
Why not try to stop breeders who buy titled adults, never show or work them after purchase, and crank out litter after litter, never hold back or compete with their progeny, and have prices like this? Yes, I copied this from a breeder's website. This is the price for -puppies!- except for the last line.
What's the point in bragging about a dog's ability in if t
My opinion on out-of-standard colors: If there is not a case of health-problems being associated with a particular color factor, what's the harm? At least this breeder screens their dogs hips and elbows, and even admit that their goal is to: "produce... mentally and physically sound German Shepherd Dogs, some of which may have the fault of being the wrong color." [source]
There's no deception there; they even admit Liver and Blue are faults.
Why not try to stop breeders who buy titled adults, never show or work them after purchase, and crank out litter after litter, never hold back or compete with their progeny, and have prices like this? Yes, I copied this from a breeder's website. This is the price for -puppies!- except for the last line.
World Class German Shepherd Pricing
| Select | Pet/Companion/Protection |
$1,500-$ 2,500 |
| Ultimate | Pet/Protection/Schutzhund Prospects |
$2,500-$3,500 |
| Supreme | Show/Breeding/Schutzhund Prospects |
$3,500-$4,500 |
| Supreme Quality |
Show/Breeding/top Schutzhund prospects/pick of the litter |
$4,500-$6,500 |
| Schutzhund Trained Adults | V Rated Schutzhund 1/2/3 Trained Adults |
$8,000 & Up |
What's the point in bragging about a dog's ability in if t
by jc.carroll on 11 May 2010 - 17:05
(wow, that that's the last time I try raw sourcing my reply here 
. It looked perfectly fine in the comment box one.)
[CONT'D]
What's the point in bragging about a dog's ability in if the owner doesn't compete with their dogs, and has never tried the progeny? I would much rather target people like this who prey on naive buyers, charge ridiculous prices, and never actually prove their dogs or their progeny. A breeder like that is just a high-class puppy mill IMO.
I'd rather seen an honest breeder producing off-colors and admitting to it than a sketchy breeder trying to hype of dogs as great working prospects, but never doing a thing with their stock or progeny.
. It looked perfectly fine in the comment box one.)[CONT'D]
What's the point in bragging about a dog's ability in if the owner doesn't compete with their dogs, and has never tried the progeny? I would much rather target people like this who prey on naive buyers, charge ridiculous prices, and never actually prove their dogs or their progeny. A breeder like that is just a high-class puppy mill IMO.
I'd rather seen an honest breeder producing off-colors and admitting to it than a sketchy breeder trying to hype of dogs as great working prospects, but never doing a thing with their stock or progeny.
by Two Moons on 11 May 2010 - 17:05
God,
I wish I had other names.
For the multiple name users here.
Scarlet,
I saw Craig's list mentioned,
Last place to go looking for a dog.
Best advice is to always deal one on one and see for yourself who your dealing with,
only exception would be someone who has such an impeccable reputation with years of experience that they are known by all.
As for other message boards and picking the next website to critique,
Have at it !!
No one can "stop this breeder"
Moons.
I wish I had other names.
For the multiple name users here.
Scarlet,
I saw Craig's list mentioned,
Last place to go looking for a dog.
Best advice is to always deal one on one and see for yourself who your dealing with,
only exception would be someone who has such an impeccable reputation with years of experience that they are known by all.
As for other message boards and picking the next website to critique,
Have at it !!
No one can "stop this breeder"
Moons.
by rainforestscouts on 12 May 2010 - 04:05
Moons,
I agree, multiple names would be nice.
What ever happened to DR?
RFS
I agree, multiple names would be nice.
What ever happened to DR?
RFS
by Two Moons on 12 May 2010 - 04:05
I was just thinking the same thing.
Great minds....lol
Great minds....lol
by MaggieMae on 12 May 2010 - 04:05
Moons -- Maybe "we" ALL should have several names ..... why should just a "few" do it ..... now that could be really interesting.
by Two Moons on 12 May 2010 - 04:05
It might have been fun in a chatroom but it's not very useful here.
POOF !!!
POOF !!!
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