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by Mystere on 31 January 2009 - 01:01

Missbeeb,

Yes, crowns and caps, too. Many of the schutzhunders have had to get caps on their dogs, when they snap a canine. It happens, just one of those things. Some dogs never become accustomed to the cap and it ruins their grip. Others have no problem with it. I know of a Dobie woman who had her dog's broken canines capped with titanium. Talk about intimidating!! We also have root canals done. I had to have one for my old bitch. And let me tell you, the dog's dental work costs just as much, or nearly, as a human's does!! The root canal cost me about $1200 6-7 years ago.

Jean,

Consult a dental veterinarian or two. Perhaps then, you can understand and accept the existence of braces.

by wuzzup on 31 January 2009 - 01:01

Yes missbeeb its true about the caps and crowns even working dogs break teeth .So to continue to work at bite work and dumbbell retrievals they will fix the teeth.Also to remove a broken tooth can cause the dog to loose bone density in the jaw causing further bite work and other problems.

by animules on 31 January 2009 - 01:01

Christopher, that was darn right funny! But now you've done it, there will be a shortage of Nuticles.

by Mystere on 31 January 2009 - 03:01

Not likely, Animules!! Frankly, it kinda explains something I've noticed at the shows. Assuming there is a regional comformation show this year, if we both attend, I will point it out to you. :-)

by dogshome9 on 31 January 2009 - 03:01

Rexy, you say that the breeder of your dog told you that your boy's pedigree makes him suitable for Protection Work but the thing is it's NOT only about his pedigree,

And next time before you choose to Tar the whole breed TAKE YOURSELF OFF AND HAVE A LOOK AT A GSD Specialty Show and have a look at the OPEN CLASS dogs.

On second thoughts DON'T. I am happy for you to own the best GSD in OZ.

it's what you have done with it. DO YOU WORK HIM, DO OBEDIENCE PERHAPS. There is no point having a dog with X amout of drives, if you have not done anything with him, without giving him direction and training you have a very bored dog that will lay around your yard and bite the first unknown person that tries to enter your gate.
Have you done any work with your dog??
Any obedience titles ?
Show titles ?

By the way we do have a large number of "German Imports" in Australia these days and unforunately not all are good ones and most have working titles but not nessassarily passing their working ability on. A poor stud dog can only do sooo much.
The puppies owners have to do some work also.

by wuzzup on 31 January 2009 - 04:01

NIA I never said there were no dogs with braces-and I understand the reason for it.I even understand the reason for the testicals to be surgically put in the right form and place.Believe it or not I can even figure out why they would want to keep it a little quiet around the show ring.

by sueincc on 31 January 2009 - 07:01

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by Rexy on 31 January 2009 - 08:01

Dogshome9, are you denying that "some" not "all" but "SOME" breeders in Australia are purposely breeding which sums it up perfectly, "labradors wearing German Shepherd's uniforms"???. Their breedings are based on good conformation no problems there, but are modifying the temperament using soft low drive breeding stocks and passing these animals off as perfect examples of the breed standard and the problem is, this practice is gathering momentum???.

The breeder of my GSD places emphasis on maintaining the standard of temperament and working ability of the dog and will not use soft low drive dogs in the breeding program. The point is, if the dog instinctively doesn't have the required drives, no amount of training will convert a nerve bag into a front line police dog or Schutzhund champion will it???.

I have never seen puppies marketed on the basis of results from Specialty Shows, it's all about the results of their ancestory bloodlines in conformation, you know that as well as I do???. Considering that absolutely no working ability is required of a GSD whatsoever in Australia to achieve conformation titles, how the dog rates in compliance with the breed standards other than conformation, a prospective buyer is in "no man's land".

My GSD is a long coat, he doesn't comply with the breed standards for showing, and confirmation shows are not my interests for the dog. I have had show line Golden Retriever's for 26 years and tired of the skittish behavior, kinks and fears that many Golden's exhibit and didn't want the same in a GSD other than wearing a different jacket. The amount of nerve bag timid GSD's I know of and have seen bred on wonderful conformation, unless you do your research as to who is breeding what, you can end up with a GSD with the temperament of something else.

by Rexy on 31 January 2009 - 08:01

Dogshome9, are you denying that "some" not "all" but "SOME" breeders in Australia are purposely breeding which sums it up perfectly, "labradors wearing German Shepherd's uniforms"???. Their breedings are based on good conformation no problems there, but are modifying the temperament using soft low drive breeding stocks and passing these animals off as perfect examples of the breed standard and the problem is, this practice is gathering momentum???.

The breeder of my GSD places emphasis on maintaining the standard of temperament and working ability of the dog and will not use soft low drive dogs in the breeding program. The point is, if the dog instinctively doesn't have the required drives, no amount of training will convert a nerve bag into a front line police dog or Schutzhund champion will it???.

I have never seen puppies marketed on the basis of results from Specialty Shows, it's all about the results of their ancestory bloodlines in conformation, you know that as well as I do???. Considering that absolutely no working ability is required of a GSD whatsoever in Australia to achieve conformation titles, how the dog rates in compliance with the breed standards other than conformation, a prospective buyer is in "no man's land".

My GSD is a long coat, he doesn't comply with the breed standards for showing, and confirmation shows are not my interests for the dog. I have had show line Golden Retriever's for 26 years and tired of the skittish behavior, kinks and fears that many Golden's exhibit and didn't want the same in a GSD other than wearing a different jacket. The amount of nerve bag timid GSD's I know of and have seen bred on wonderful conformation, unless you do your research as to who is breeding what, you can end up with a GSD with the temperament of something else.

by dogshome9 on 31 January 2009 - 09:01

Rexy,

Even though your male is "long coat' that does Not prevent you from having Obedience titles.

Please STOP this GSD's wearing Jackets / LABRADORES/ Golden Retrieviers Wearing Jackets.

Go back to Labs & golden Retrievers and do us all a favour.

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