Breeding or training, Nerves or drives? - Page 6

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Jeff, I had a Kirschental girl years ago that was nuts to please.  She lived for my approval.  I never rewarded with treats or toys, at least in the early training.  I wanted the dogs to bond to me, not the food in my pocket.

Sooooooo, how is that not a reward ??? Do you think that it was Love and Respect ??? What is pack drive ??? My dog is bonded to me, as using food in training has nothing to do with bonding. Another old ass pet peeve of mine, as if the dog just wouldn't bond, or bond differently if you use food. : ) There is no difference. NONE. If your dog doesn't bond to you, go get therapy, cause you need help. : )

Also, did you title the dog ???

I am not saying that I do not want to see that in a dog, but I keep hearing all about this over the top drive in the GSD, and I wonder what the hell you are looking at. I do not see over the top anything. At best, I see some spun up dogs from reeeetard training. LOL

Hmm...I wonder how they get those high drive dogs to do the long down during a Schutzhund Routine?

How do they get them to "stay " on the out of motion exercises without jumping out of their skin?

How do they make it through their BH temperament test...let alone make it to the judge for the handler to check in?

How can they possibly get through those stick hits during the protection routine?

There must be a magnet attached to their belly that activates when they encounter an article on the Schutzhund track.

I guess those low drive dogs are better...after all no training is required!!!

 Michelle, as all top competitors know, special electrical devices are planted just beneath the skin behind both ears, and along the spine of the dog. These devices are able to transmit electrical impulses that are recieved by all the top handlers. They have transmitting devices implanted into their ear canals, and behind the eye, so that they may control the dog using brainwaves.

The frequency of these transmissions are the same as a dogs brain wavelength, so the signal transmitted is translated into a "language" that dogs understand. 

Only high drive dogs have this frequency in their brain, that is why they are used. 

Obviously the superior low drive nerve bag showline dogs need no training, as they are far superior in speed bitepower, and sheer brute force. Their froglike back legs, and roached back provide the necessary force needed to kill a man with a single bound.

German Shepherd..........No other breed necessary.

I came late to this thread too, and I think I must be missing something.  Personally I REALLY love high drive dogs, I find they are much easier to train, and has nothing to do with masking anything.  I wonder if  some here might be making the mistake of assuming all high drive dogs are hectic and the two do not necessarily go hand-in-hand.  Yes, some high drive dogs are hectic, but I would much rather deal even with a hectic dog than a low or even medium drive dog any day.  Also some handlers not experienced with high drive dogs can make their dogs hectic.

Back in the early 80s you had people who gnashed their teeth and lamented the fact that working GSDs were becoming all prey, nothing like the dogs of the 70s.  In the 90s you heard again how the dogs were becoming all prey, nothing like the dogs of the 80s.   My point is it's sort of like childhood, everyone is sure their childhood was the best. 

Thanks, Held. Stuka's a good boy.

                                                 Nate
                                                 www.sportwaffenk9.com

Jeff...thanks for revealing the top secrets of the super Schutzhund competitors.

The next time I have one of those Alien encounters I will have the device installed :)

Michele