Is this Normal for a Schutzhund Club - Page 6

Yes, and it is that frustrasion and impatience which can possibly ruin a good prospect,

Of course everyone knows only a certain percentage go on to be great Dogs of which we are laa looking for, but because a Dog is a little slow at a young age does not mean it is a shitter as is called over there

As i said Fred was a little backward but you couls see there was something abolut the Dog in other ways, He never missed anything which was going on the field, One top Dog owner here noticed when he was about 10 months old it was a Club Trial i had fred on the leash watiching the Dogs, He was paying a great interest what qas going on never took his eyes off them working, then a Bird flew over above the field his eyes left the dogs and followed the bird until out of sight then he focused right back on the Dogs

This good Owner Trainer said did you see what he did i said yes, he then said he will make a good dog later on, I told him he was a bit slow, and he smoiled and said watch him at twice his age now you will see a differnt animal

Now nearly twice that age Fred is just as he predicted, and going on great

I have not seen this fellow since but we will meet up again sometime in the near future and i will see if he remembers his comment some time back

I have kept and raced Racing pigeons now for 58 years Not local club sprint s, done that 40 years ago i mean National all the whole country and all Europe eleven differnt countries entering up to 25.000 plus pigeons a race

To do well in this sort of competition from 700 to 1100 kms you have to have patience and never get frustrated for these Birds will test your metal if you do

 if you do not have these attibutes then you may as well give up and take up tiddle winks as a hobby

some of these creatures take three years to come to themselves and act like shitters as year olds and some two year olds until they come to themselves then you can get great results for several years from them

So it is with some Dogs including children, not all will make the grade but if you can see that something special in a Dog which seems not to catch on to what you want of it then do not be in a hurry to get rid of itthat is what i am saying Obser vation is paramount not a persons ego

Steve

Steve1

Thanks for the compliment, but I cannot take the title of world's greatest trainer.  I have to concede that one to Cesar Milan. 

I had a great idea.  Since there aren't any shitters out there, why don't you give me your phone# and I will pass it out to people everytime I see a 3yr old that just wont cut it.  You can be a dog maturity hotline.  They can call and explain how their 3 yr old has a frontal grip and won't commit in most exercises.  You can reassure them that any day now their 3yr old will come around.  Just be patient, right?

Maybe I can call you from time to time and you can sell me on the fact that one day I'll come around and be able to throw a 100 mph fastball and hit 50 homers.

Anyhow, no sense in bickering over something so senseless.  We both agree that the OP should get another opinion. 

Mr Corleone

I have never mentioned waiting with Dogs to find out there potential until three years old i said one or two years old

And as for throwing a ball at 100 miles an hour at a batch of racing pigeions you would miss badly there reactions compared to a human is at least 20 times faster

And you do suprise me with being second to Cesar Milan, Second has never had any place in history,

I was rated Number one in the Pigeon Sport in England  from over 30.000 fanciers, and it will happen over here in Belgium should i survive a few more years

and Yes, i have done enough and am old enough to have a little Brag about it, although that is not my usual way in life

And yes, we always will differ on several subjects appertaining to the Dog Sport, but with no ill feelings

Steve 

I would get another opinion.  I have a question...when you go out with your dog for your training session, are you excited, ready to go, or are you apprehensive about your dog's performance?  I have found that my dogs read me like an open book and my mindset affects their performance, especially when we first started training.  What exactly is it about your dog that your trainer didn't like? Could it be something that can be worked on? 

I have always been lucky with my trainer, he is dead on about dogs, and I was NOT happy with his opinion on my middle male for K9, but years later, he was right.  My middle male is awesome at tracking and searches, he loves finding people but couldn't care less about any bite work, though he will bark up a storm if he feels I am threatened. He recently started on dope work and is unbelieveable.  So if your dog turns out to not be made for Schutzhund, there are plently of other things your dog could learn.

Good Luck

Bob Mc Kown

Again it takes an illiterate person like yourself to bring up Wars on a Dog site

I only hope to God not all your countrymen think like you

For your information we fought alone in the second world War for three years before the USA came in it ,and they only did then when they two were under attack at Pearl Harbor

So you did not win the war for us,

Plus the fact you have started many Wars, but never finished one in your favour,

Your Mouth is big that i grant you but i think your brain is not the same

Cut out the talk of Wars there is more than enough trouble going on without fools like you trying to be Macho

And Son i am a little more ring wise than you appear to be the way you talk

Steve,

Boy, is THIS thread heading south!

SS

You said it Shelley. Most decent threads head to the gutter because someone catches feelings.  An opinion is an opinion, nothing more, nothing less.  The maturity, or lack there of, on this board is the reason why  most advanced trainers do not post.

There was a time when questions about GSD's was asked on this board.  Now its about mud slinging and childish bickering.  Don't get me started on the touchy, feely, non training questions.

For the original poster.  By all means get another opinion.  But don't get rid of a dog you can still learn from.  The type of dog you think you want today, may not be the type of dog you want once you get your own skills up.  Strong, serious dogs are fun to watch but can be a real pain in the rear to handle, especially for sport. 

Kyle

My Dearest Steve:

              You have cut me to the quick, What about all those long walks we shared along the brook you looking deeply in my eye,s and expressing your love for me, the nites of torid passion where we spent all our energy intwined in soul bending mindless lust...oh well my love I guess it was never ment to be.

Although I would love to be your son that would make me a true " Son of a bitch"

                                                                                          Yours with all my feelings

                                                                                           Bob McKown

Bob Mc Kown

You talk like the arrogant person you are, and i have met a lot like you in some of the USA servicemen who stayed at the Greenham Base many years ago in Newbury , Berkshire, We called them 'Piss and Wind' some not all, thank God acted like it

Its people like you you throughout the whole world who do little to endear the people of the USA to others. because they are not respected by many which is a shame because the bulk of them are not like you,

but its people like you who turn the tide against them, with your stupid and needless rubbish you spout

Steve

 I love British slang, Piss and wind, Bangers and Mash, Hail to the queen,To the pub for a pint, Barking mad, Piss off.

Steve I,ll cry tears on my pillow for you.

But your not British anymore you moved to Belgium (if i,m not mistaken).... I like belgium, home of good chocolate and Doctor Evel is from there.