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by Ilse on 21 September 2007 - 21:09

Another dog to take a look at is Eric v Sportpak - VERY nice in both obedience and protection (both videos are on the same site as this one)  Check out this dog - I liked him.

yes  Molly he is very good ,  maybe you can use him for breeding?????


by eichenluft on 21 September 2007 - 22:09

I like the dog (Eric v Sportpac) very much in the work, but there are of course many other things to consider when I'm looking at a stud dog for breeding - the work is one important thing but not the only thing :)

 

molly


by Ilse on 22 September 2007 - 08:09

hahaha


by eichenluft on 22 September 2007 - 12:09

is that funny??


by Ilse on 23 September 2007 - 10:09

yes  it is  ,good luck


by olskoolgsds on 23 September 2007 - 22:09

This was sad indeed, but I guess I looked at it a little differently. The thought I had was that the dog hurt his mouth previously and the bite was very painful. He came off that bite way to quick. It looked to me like a reaction to pain. From there it was all down hill, which can happen to most dogs. I had a great Rott years ago that as a young dog I was working with and handling.  When he hit the sleeve he yelped. I looked for injury  but found none. Wanting to leave him on a good note I told the agitator to give him one more quick bite then give up the sleeve immediatly, knowing something was wrong but not what.  After he bit and yelped again we stopped and upon closer examination I realize he had bit through his lower lip, leaving a nasty hole. Being a young dog I learned a lesson that sometimes they do not know how to role there lips back for a full bite. I was afraid this dog was ruined, that he would never want to bite again in view of his only experience being so painful. However, he fooled me and once healed and started over he did great.
Point being, when I saw this dog hit that sleeve and stop and retreat so quick it made me wonder if there may have been a good reason for him to react this way. I find it hard to believe that any dog that has gone through the training he has gone through would react this way short of something that was really hurting him physically. He did not want to re-engage and looked fearful. There is nothing for him in this phase to cause him to react the way he did. I would question the idea that he is just a weak nerve bag that couldn't take the stress of ....what? On this, I hope I am right, that he is not as bad as he looked.


by olskoolgsds on 23 September 2007 - 22:09

Having just rewatched this video, he engages the helper again but will not take a full bite. He attempts to take a nip type bite that is useless. He knows what he is supposed to do but IMO can't bring himself to engage the pain. He does not flee from the area, he faces the helper and sits and barks but simply refuses to take a FULL mouth bite. When I see him retreat I see him avoiding the confrontation that will cause him pain. Again, I hope for the dogs sake and the BSP I am right.






 


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