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http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200702/Implausibility-Directed-Energy-Beam-Demolish-WTC-by-Gregory-Jenkins.pdf

Here's something to ponder:  perhaps the conspiracy theorists are just in it for the money.  After all, they make a lot from their books and speaking engagements.  

Popular mechanics is dirty.  Examine the associations of their management.  Prof. Fetzer is not in it for the money, not even close on this assumption.  He is a "truth junkie" who loves research and wants to know what really happened once the cover story has been peeled away.  He is the foremost expert of the JFK Assassination, having edited three pioneering scientific books on the subject (Assassination Science, Murder in Dealey Plaza, and the Great Zapruder Film Hoax), followed by Jim Marrs (Crossfire) and Joel Twyman(Bloody Treason). 

Prof. Fetzer has written over 29 books at last count and only a few are related to Govt RICO crimes/murders. Fetzer served honorably as a Marine Artillery Officer and loves the USA and the US Constitution.  He is a loyal American Patriot through and through.  He and I come from different political orientations, I more right wing and he more to the left, not unusual for academic social scientists.  But we both want rule of law and justice for all, including high govt officials who have gone renegade and criminal and are uising intel and "national security" as false cover for illegal trafficking in drugs, guns and money laundering.  I have met with him numerous times and know him well.  And he is serious about trying to solve these high govt crimes.  He typically works inductively, taking scientific evidence which completely disproves the Govt cover stories and lies. This only proves that the Govt is covering up these crimes, not that they did them or how but it is suggestive and provides good working hypotheses. 

Gov. Ventura is also rock solid and a true American through and through, loves this country the USA and its Constitution and is also concerned that we have a criminal cadre that has hijacked it. Maybe you have heard the old saying that when you are over the target, the flack starts up.  Well Fetzer and Ventura have seen a lot of flak, as have I over many years. I find that direct witnes testimony from inside highly credible sources like Steve Pieczenik, Gen. Stubbelbine, Morgan Reynolds, and Dr. Alan Sabrowsky the best evidence and proof that the USAF did 911 as a false flag/standown attack, like is taught in the war college for higher level officers.

I say it is best to concentrate on eyewitness testimony of high govt officials close by who refuse to go along with the coverup. Arguing over the inductive street level explosive samples and physics involved is difficult because the govt has above top secret super high tech weapons in its arsenal which are unknown to outsiders.  These systems are at least 30 years ahead of conventional knowledge outside these circles. For example, the anti-matter weapons, the hyperbaric air fuel weapons (of which there are some newer varieties which are unknown to most), and other satellite platform based systems (such as nuclear powered particle beam, rod dispensors, etc., not to mention the high tech scalar phased array weapon networks)-(the US has ten in one network and other countries have them now too, Haarp is the largest in the US network and can bounce the atmosphere and energize the ionosphere.).  Then you have the old GWEN system which is obsolete but still in use.  And one of the first like this used was the old russian woodpecker system next to chernobyl, now abandoned due to chernobyl's meltdown.  There is a great deal more, this is just the tip of the iceberg.

One can argue about small specific bits of inductive level evidence till the cows come home and only generate meaningless disagreements.  This 911 crime which is actually mass murder will easily unravel with either an honest grand jury or a truth commission. It is close to reaching critical mass, or a tipping point with just too many citizens finally catching on.  And WTC building 7 being announced as collapsed by BBC announcer 20 minutes before it fell because she read off of a script prepared at MI6 by an operative who forgot about daylight savings and screwed up on the time.  This is the Govt coverup's achilles heel as is the numerous samples of super nano-thermate recovered and analyzed at independent scientif labs (at least one lab in Europe too).

I suggest folks who are honest and are not trapped in the govt's information control matrix (the multi billion dollar, "operation mockingbird"), focus on the high Govt insiders who are now coming forward and telling the truth that 911 was a stand-down/false flag attack. (for more info search "Operation Northwoods to see how these are planned by the USAF). Northwoods would have been enacted except that JFK refused to authorize it just as he was starting pull out of Vietnam and stated he would eliminate the CIA.

I don't like to generalize but basically folks tend to view 911 in several different patterns.

Type 1:  Incredulity crowd.  The idea that our own govt would murder 3,000 of our citizens on 911 and cause the death of hundreds of first responders from lung disease and asbestosis by saying that the air was okay to breath is just completely incredulous to many.  They just cannot conceive of this level of evil by their own Govt officials, that the Govt would do this as a false pretext or psyop used to justify unprovoked, undeclared, illegal wars in the mideast or the suspension of habeus corpus under the unConstitional so-called Patriot Act and Military Commissions Act in order to amass more power and engage in war-profiteering.  The idea of this just won't fit into their heads and they shut down and refuse to even listen to firsthand witnesses or consider the evidence, even if from other high govt officiials who want the truth told and want this treason and sedition stopped.  Most of these folks are good opeope but have been too trusting and naive about their govt.  they should have known from the JFK, MLK, RFK assassinations and the phoney Gulf of Tonklin incident that the govt was capable of this.  Some of these folks vigorously and msitakenly attack truth tellers as enemies of the people (they reject the messenger in order to reject the message without considering it).  Whether these folks understand it or not they are playing the "king's new clothes" game.  Sad part is many are good, honest Americans that just don't know they have been psyopped and mindkontrolled by mass media dispensed propaganda (govt prepared talking points). Some of these folks are police and military true believers with authority hangups or over-identification with authority of Govt.

Type 2:  These are the folks that know the truth that the Govt did 911, but they have a different set of motives. They resist the truth as much as some of those of Type 1, but do it for different motives.   They do it because they are employed by agencies or contractors of te US Govt and are professional misinformation or disinformation artists or intel operatives trying to generate red herrings and personal atacks in order to cloud the issues and prevent the truth from being accepted by the public.  Some of these are professional psyops experts, some are "tow the official line" operation mockingbird supported major media talking heads.  These folks have sold their souls and sold out the truth for a lie, all in order to secure a good retirement or climb the food chain.  I have discussed this with at least one of these types who told me that the "people" are stupid and must be manipulated at times to protect the "national security" and that sometimes even a false flag must be done to enable a major pre-emptive strike against muslims which would eventually attack us on our own turf on their terms.  (if so why does the is US Govt been willing to sell them vast quantities of arms, nerve gas predursers, aircraft, helicopters, etc.?).  The folks of type 2 do not typically believe in a representative democracy but rather rule by a scientific and intel based super-elite oligarchy as long as they can be part of it and have more money and power than th common man. Most are outright psychopaths (sociopaths) but some of the operatives are DID/MPD.

Type 3:  There are the folks that actually carried out 911.  Certain USAF officers, some high dod officials, some intel officials, some intel operatives and some contractors and subcontractors with top secret security clearances (SCI).  These folks have either committed, mass murder, treason, sedition, criminal conspiracy to murder, stock fraud (short selling based on pre-knowledge), accessory after th

gg, you made a statement about Prof. Jim Fetzer.  Here is a site you can download his recent program with Morgan Reynolds on the subject of thermite/thermate versus Dr. Judy Wood's evidence.  Right click and download to the location you want and then listen using a suitable player.  Judy Wood, Ph.D. has a very nice book just published which has a great deal of important photos of the crime scene. When Morgan Reynolds found out that 911 was an inside job he quite his high ranking Govt job for Bush 2 and walked away in disgust. 

Jun 22, 2011
http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/

You can skip ahead to miss boring parts and breaks. 

This program will give you additional information by which you can evaluate Prof. Fetzer, his apparent attitude and possible motives, as well as his guest Morgan Reynolds, former high Govt. official who was one of the first to come out publicly that 911 was an inside job (false flag/standown op). You will see that Prof. Fetzer is a truth junkie and is only after the truth of what really happened and is no govt shill.

This discussion above is based on crime scene evidence and inductive reasoning.  I prefer direct witness testimony of those high Govt officials who are highly credible and who have first hand knowledge of who did it such as Steve Pieczenik, Ph.D. or General Albert Stubbelbine.

When 911 happened it sent shockwaves through the intelligence community and the military high command.  Many immediately knew that it was a false flag/stand-down inside job, self-inflicted wound terrorist attack and they knew the reasons (to use it as a false pretext to start unprovoked, illegal, unConstitutional, undeclared mideast wars).  Some even had prior knowledge and warned their friends in advance not to fly on 9-11-01 (such as Willy Brown, Mayor of San Francisco). Some witnesses who started to talk were murdered (arkensided, etc.).  Others sat tight and hoped that the truth would come out and started leaking the facts to certain members of the public, hoping that word would spread and the thinly disguised coverup would collapse and rearguard actions to save the US Constitution would actualize.  After things cooled down and a certain turning point against the neocons was reached (after Obabas election) folks started leaking a lot more and some high officials like Dr. Pieczenik, Gen. Stubbelbine and Morgan Reynolds came forward. Every day and more and more folks find out the truth and are waking up.  I am making these posts to help save our country from the enemy within that has hijacked our govt in dc. America has been good to me and I want to do everything I can to wake folks up. Almost nobody enjoys being ridiculed for presenting difficult truths that most folks never seriously considered, nor do I.  But it is important to take a stand for what is right. I have been exposing the Govt drug business for over 20 years and been harassed a great deal for it and so far survived. 911 has produced a phony war on terror which has itself produced creeping state tyranny and the formation of homeland security, the new american gestapo.

There are numerous hushed rumors of "above top secret" SCI research on anti-matter weapons which can allegedly provide startling power from small matchbox sized devices (sandia labs, los alamos????).  The new Cern device in Switzerland is allegedly also involved in this research. I was told back in the early 1970's of such an experiment in an allied foreign country by a doctor I knew that was allowed to see the blast area after the test and he said all the vehicles were pulled together and melted into a big blob of slag with almost no radiation contamination. 

Supposedly the Navy and AF have numerous such weapons systems deployed, especially in the current "space war" which is largely unknown to most folks because the orbital militarization and weaponization of space is also largely unknown to most folks.  This program really took off under Pres. Reagan's star wars initiative and has continued in secret costing trillions of dollars.  Every major country of the world is involved with hunter/killer satellites and space platform based weapons systems.  This includes the US, the UK, France, Russia, China, and India.  All these countries have "eye in the sky" spy satellite systems too which are nuclear powered. The US has over 100 of this that can view every single square inch of the earths surface and some even through clouds too.  Japan was very close to launching its first hunter/killer satellites when the Tsunami occurred.

Some scientific researchers on 911 believe that numerous preplaces, remote controlled or precision timed anti-matter based devices were detonated, one per floor staring at the top going down almost simultaneously in the twin towers, with high tech super nanoparticulized thermate used as cutting charges to weaken some of the main steel column supports. This would explain the pulverizing of most of the materials to dust, the liquid molton slag left at the base of the buildings, the massive dust clouds flowing down the surrounding streets and the tritium residues at ground zero afterwards.  It is also interesting tio note that right from the start the base location of the twin towers crime scene was called "ground zero" by the govt.  Every time this term was used (Ground Zero) by the govt previously, it has been used to designate the site of some type of nuclear explosion. So keep that in mind.

http://articles.sfgate.com/2004-10-04/news/17447495_1_antimatter-physicists-paul-dirac 

I'm tired of your conspiracy theories Preston.  I've held back until now, but I'm sick of your nonsense. I will never believe that 911 was an inside job!  It's a conspiracy theory that is right up there with alien abductions and world leaders are really lizards!

http://akiwood.com/shape-shifting-lizards-control-world-governments/

I suppose you don't believe planes hit the twin towers and the pentagon.  You probably thought that it was just holograms or that it was fighter jets and not commercial airliners?  I know someone who was there and witnessed it first hand.  Terrorists flew commercial airliners into buildings and murdered Americans.   You cannot discredit countless eyewitnesses and the cell phone calls made from flight 93 before it went down.  

People who continue to say 911 was an inside job are not what I consider to be patriotic Americans!  Further more, one of my siblings personally knows someone (that's as much as I will say) who is in a leadership role for Homeland Security, which you refer to as the "new American gestapo."  This individual has given more for our country by way of service than most Americans have, and to have someone refer to this person and their job as the "new American gestapo" is revolting!!  Maybe now you know why you should not come on an international forum and spout your nonsense rhetoric!  

First the head of hs is completely unqualified and has a spotty history.  When AZ gov she purposely let the border go and went globalist in all her decisions.  She did nothing good for AZ.  She cares nothing about the US Constitution and Bill of Rights and takes orders to trash the Constitution.  She is an enemy of the people like too many of our top officials in DC and this is exactly what our founding fathers warned us about. 

Now let's examine the long string of RICO crimes of the fbi.  Let's just pick a few biggies: 
1-The Diane Kinsey matter.  She was an fbi undercover agent, a high class model that infiltrated one of the top cocaine cartel families in miami.  Turns out this family had ties right into the white house and shipped pharmaceutical grade cocaine in diplomatic pouches right to guess who.  This investigation could have taken down the whole se drug task force and the white house, but the fbi quashed it.  They had videos, wire recording, more evidence than you can imagine.
2-The Margie Sloan matter.  Margie was a well known investigative reporter in Miami. a 100 lb little bolt of lightning.  She had been exposing a lot of hd corruption in her writings.  The fbi sent out a couple of their people to shut her up forever.  One came to her front door and asked her to step outside, while another with a carbine pushed her ladder up against the rear roof and got on the roof. The agent at the front knocked on her door and told her to come out that he wanted to talk to her.  The plan was to shoot her in the back and call it a home invasion murder.  Margie saw them coming and had called a local radio talk show in Miami that was live with a huge audience.  She put the cell phone in her pocket and opened the inside door but not the screen door. The agent kept telling her to come out they just wanted to talk to her, but she refused and then the agent started cursing, making gross vulgarities and threatening her life.  It went directly live on a daytime 50,000 watt station to thousands.  Margie pulled the phone out and told the agent, "you have gone live on talk radio to thousands" and had the announcer speak back who said the local police had been called.  The agent almost fainted and yelled to his partner. They ran to their car and left.
3-The omaha Nick Ohara/Wadman Franklin coverup matter in which fbi agent Donald Rochon sued the fbi for 1.75 million and won for in house perversions attaempted against him.
4-The ruby Ridge matter where the fbi hrt murdered a woman holding a baby after her husband, a former gren beret was set up on a phoney gun charge and given the wrong court date so he couldn't show up to defend himself, resulting in a warrant being wrongly issued.  The fbi shot the families dog, his sone and wife and one of their own which they blamed on the son as a false pretext to attack the family.
5-The Waco matter.  Again the fbi hrt took command from the batf after snipers in helicopters shot the four batf agents (all had worked for Clinton on his security team) as a false pretext to use military force against the branch davidians, after they shot the childrens dogs and fired first on the davidiians to start the shooting.
6-The Phillip Whitehurst, MD matter.  He blew the whistle on the fbi crime lab and exposed how evidence was routinely faked and twisted to gain wrongful convictions.Dr. Whitehurst was severely harrassed, fiired and sued the fbi and won. 
 7-The Whitey Bolger matter.  You can read about this since he was finally caught after allowed to be on the lamb for 16 years. 
8-The Colleen Rowley matter.  Colleen was an fbi attorney in Minneapolis, MN that had information about the 911 plot before 911.  When she

gg, you are as entitled to your opinions as much as I am or anyone else.  But so far you have not be able to suitably critique and disprove the facts and testimony about the 911 false falg/standown attacks.  You have not dealt with the witnesses that could take the whole coverup down if this ever gets to court, a grand jury or a truth commission: Steve Pieczenik, MD., Major General Albert Stubbelbine (former head of all army intel and special ops, Morgan Reynolds, or Alan Sabrosky, Ph.D. professor of many years at the War College.  Of course there is then Sibel Edwards whose testimony if allowed could put many of the neocons in jail for a very, very long time.
Dr. Pieczenik knows all the players who set this up, who ran the operation, how it was done, and has names all the big players except for the AF General which he will name in any federal proceeding. 

gg, you have once again drifted back to ad hominen attacks toward me and tried to link me to "conspiracy nut misinformation and disinformation" as a way to draw attention away from my message.  This is an age old psyops tactic and most folks on this forum are far to smart to fall for that. If you don't like reading my posts, the solution is simple.  Don't read them. You are starting to act like a type 2 rather than a misinformed type 1.

The inductive or street level "after the fact" evidence is overwhelming and proves that the official Govt storyline about who did 911 is FALSE.  That evidence does not prove the US Govt did it , but only for sure that it has covered the truth up and blatantly lying to the Americanm people.  the definit truth of who done it is the eyewitness and first hand testimony of the individuals I mentioned. The Govt's story line (cover story) itself is a very thin concvosted and false conspiracy tale which is easily proven to be all lies.  I've covered all this before.  Osama bin Laden was cia and his tradecraft name was tim osman.  He was the cia bagman for the mujaheedan in Afghanistan, started by bob gates to beat the russian invaders. Even the fbi has stated there is no evidence osama bin laden or saddam hussein did 911 or was even involved in it.

Preston give it a rest.