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by Preston on 02 July 2011 - 03:07
Red Sable, there is overwhelming proof it was. Nobody wants tobelieve their own govt is the actual terrorist and did the attack to create fear in the poeple who then were willing to give up basic Constitutional freedoms to "be safe". Problem is the Govt will use their increased centralized power power to attempt to subdue and destroy the Republic that our Founding Fathers fought for and established, then planning to fold what remains into a new world govt of weakened, but equal "second world" nations.
Now on this 4th of July weekend it is important to remember what our Founding Father fought for, and the freedom and liberty our other soldiers fought for. And we need to recommit ourselves to upholding the Constitution.
We have an enemy within that has been bought off by foreign owned int'l merchant banks and offshore major int'l corporations. Fascism is the merger of the corporation and govt acvcording to Mussolini. In the USA we have had our govt bought by offshore based financial entities through k street lobbyists (campaign donations, special revolving door jobs, huge speaking honorariums, actual payoffs under the table ie "grease").
Most people cannot handle the truth, it just won't fit into their heads. It takes courage to break out of the mold and wake up to reality. There is massive evidence proving that 911 was an inside job done by the USAF and its special subcontractors in order to justify illegal, unprovoked and unConstitutional mideast wars/invasions that the American people would not otherwise accept. Hundreds of architects and other professionals such as pilots and military know that the official govt story is a huge set of complete lies and have come forward.
Many former and current govt officials are starting to come forth and tell what they know to be true (eg Gov. Jessie Ventura, Sen. Mike Gravel, Maj. Gen Stubbelbine, Steve Pieczenik, MD, Ph.D., Alan Sabrowsky, PhD.) and over 1200 licensed architects and engineers. The major mass media owned by 5 major int'l corporations (3 of which are defense contractors) won't allow the truth to be told (so far, but that could change is enough pressure is brought to bear).
Now on this 4th of July weekend it is important to remember what our Founding Father fought for, and the freedom and liberty our other soldiers fought for. And we need to recommit ourselves to upholding the Constitution.
We have an enemy within that has been bought off by foreign owned int'l merchant banks and offshore major int'l corporations. Fascism is the merger of the corporation and govt acvcording to Mussolini. In the USA we have had our govt bought by offshore based financial entities through k street lobbyists (campaign donations, special revolving door jobs, huge speaking honorariums, actual payoffs under the table ie "grease").
Most people cannot handle the truth, it just won't fit into their heads. It takes courage to break out of the mold and wake up to reality. There is massive evidence proving that 911 was an inside job done by the USAF and its special subcontractors in order to justify illegal, unprovoked and unConstitutional mideast wars/invasions that the American people would not otherwise accept. Hundreds of architects and other professionals such as pilots and military know that the official govt story is a huge set of complete lies and have come forward.
Many former and current govt officials are starting to come forth and tell what they know to be true (eg Gov. Jessie Ventura, Sen. Mike Gravel, Maj. Gen Stubbelbine, Steve Pieczenik, MD, Ph.D., Alan Sabrowsky, PhD.) and over 1200 licensed architects and engineers. The major mass media owned by 5 major int'l corporations (3 of which are defense contractors) won't allow the truth to be told (so far, but that could change is enough pressure is brought to bear).
by Preston on 02 July 2011 - 04:07
Another former top US Govt official goes public saying that 911 was an "inside job".
Morgan O. Reynolds was a professor emeritus at Texas A&M University and former director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis headquartered in Dallas, TX.
He served as chief economist for the United States Department of Labor during 2001–2002, George W. Bush's first term. In 2005, he gained public attention as the first prominent government official to publicly claim that 9/11 was an inside job, and is a member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TicB_x6V9o&feature=player_embedded

by Myracle on 02 July 2011 - 04:07
I'm not getting into the 9/11 discussion, except to say...
How hard is it to find a picture of a plane hitting the most watched, secure building in the country?
Someone robs a bank in the middle of Nowhere, Montana, there'll be endless surveillance footage.
Crash a plane into the Pentagon? We might find a couple blurry frames that don't show anything.
Whatever else a person thinks about 9/11, that has to strike any rational individual as a little odd.
How hard is it to find a picture of a plane hitting the most watched, secure building in the country?
Someone robs a bank in the middle of Nowhere, Montana, there'll be endless surveillance footage.
Crash a plane into the Pentagon? We might find a couple blurry frames that don't show anything.
Whatever else a person thinks about 9/11, that has to strike any rational individual as a little odd.
by Preston on 02 July 2011 - 05:07
Some informative short video clips on 911 being an inside job for those interested in learning more. Followed by the full length "loose change final cut" full length movie, available for free viewing on the internet.
Maj. Gen. Albert Stubbelbine says 911 was an inside job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E&feature=related
Prof. Jim Fetzer was one of the first academicians to go public that 911 was an inside job and he named those responsible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbNszu6zbe4&feature=related
More interesting video clips on 911:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khm423m6DD0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7ixuf236Dk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8jufPvs1Go&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIC0Kl4TKoU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssuAMNas1us&feature=related
Jessie Ventura's take on 911:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_YCbj9rqzw
Loose Change videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drKQykrvmp8
Maj. Gen. Albert Stubbelbine says 911 was an inside job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E&feature=related
Prof. Jim Fetzer was one of the first academicians to go public that 911 was an inside job and he named those responsible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbNszu6zbe4&feature=related
More interesting video clips on 911:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khm423m6DD0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7ixuf236Dk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Xoxaf1Al0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8jufPvs1Go&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIC0Kl4TKoU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssuAMNas1us&feature=related
Jessie Ventura's take on 911:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_YCbj9rqzw
Loose Change videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drKQykrvmp8
by Preston on 02 July 2011 - 07:07
More video clips of Govt and military officials that have come out stating 911 was an inside job:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDnhBIuNzSU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo7YI2eEJCw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEsjiR89PpY&feature=related
More from Jesse Ventura:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9mbotpeuJM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CR5139AXnE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDnhBIuNzSU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo7YI2eEJCw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEsjiR89PpY&feature=related
More from Jesse Ventura:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9mbotpeuJM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CR5139AXnE&feature=related
by Preston on 02 July 2011 - 07:07
Dayton police sued for excessive force and other charges in their arrest of a handicapped minor.
http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/06/29/37770.htm
Swat team given award by Mayor:
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=35779
http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/06/29/37770.htm
Swat team given award by Mayor:
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=35779

by ggturner on 02 July 2011 - 12:07
Jesse Ventura and Jim Fetzer (philosophy professor) are well known for their various conspiracy theories. Not my idea of credible sources.

by ggturner on 02 July 2011 - 13:07
Tidbit of information on Dr. Jim Fetzer and his credibility:
http://www.checktheevidence.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=164&Itemid=60
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/09/fetzer-vs-nist.html
http://www.checktheevidence.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=164&Itemid=60
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/09/fetzer-vs-nist.html
by Preston on 02 July 2011 - 20:07
gg, certainly you are entitled to your opinion. I have know Prof. Fetzer very well personally for over 20 years and I do not agree with him on all his claims 100%. I do agree with him on those claims related to iron clad evidence which he will gladly disclose and also admit to which views he holds which are speculative. The Prof. Judy Wood vs the super nano-thermate matter is beyond the scope of most, the learning curve on the technical aspects is quite high. Beyond question a great deal of nano-thermate particles were found in the residue of the twin towers and this is highly abnormal. Some physicists have calculated the amount of explosive power necessary to pulverize the buildings and convert so much of them to dust would have exceeded that provided by the nano-thermate. There was far too little wreckage piled up at the twin towers base to have been demoed by nan-thermate alone (or conventional explosives), which was probably painted on support beams to cut them, which would mean another source of power to pulverize the buildings had to be used. This subject quickly leads to Michael Riconosciuto, meridian arms, hyperbaric, matchbox sized anti-matter detonators, neutron similar bombs which give off short lived tritium and no long term fallout, etc. The details of all this is highly classified and cannot be disclosed at this time specifically by those who have worked developing such. It will take years for specific info to leak out unless exposed in a new federal or state investigation.
A close associate of mine worked with Jesse Ventura and knows what he is like, a stand up man who keeps his word and tells the truth. I have another associate that knows him personally quite well and says that he is a standup man. As many know, Jesse was a navy seal underwater demolitions veteran with a spotless record. He was quite popular as gov. of Minnesota. Overall his ConspiracyTheory TV shows are well done and quite credible. Gov. Ventura had a great deal more informatnt evidence than he was allowed to present. There have been limits exposed on what he could cover. Overall his shows were very accurate. He could only get them on the air using the name Conspiracy Theory, which seems somewhat discrediting.
Bottom line, there are now top govt officials who have 100% direct proof and knowledge that the USAF did 911, and the specific names of the indiividuals involved (except one AF General) have been disclosed by two different parties. It is impossible to discount Dr. Steve Pieczenik, Gen. Albert Stubbelbine, Dr. Alan Sabrowsky, and many US and foreign politicians who are coming forward. For example former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel has now come forward publicly and said 911 was an inside job. He carefully meters his words but he has taken a stand and is setting up a means to force the issue politically and in Congress. Prof. Fetzer and Gov. Ventura are doing inductive reasoning, taking street level evidence (most of it scientific) and inducing causality. Dr. Pieczenik, Gen Stubbelbine and Dr. Sabrowsky are dealing with direct admissions and first hand knowledge of theose that did it and admitted it. This is much better in a court of law especially since it also fits with the vast majority of the street level scientic evidence. Some of us know who the subcontractor companies were that helped the USAF and how they did it.
A close associate of mine worked with Jesse Ventura and knows what he is like, a stand up man who keeps his word and tells the truth. I have another associate that knows him personally quite well and says that he is a standup man. As many know, Jesse was a navy seal underwater demolitions veteran with a spotless record. He was quite popular as gov. of Minnesota. Overall his ConspiracyTheory TV shows are well done and quite credible. Gov. Ventura had a great deal more informatnt evidence than he was allowed to present. There have been limits exposed on what he could cover. Overall his shows were very accurate. He could only get them on the air using the name Conspiracy Theory, which seems somewhat discrediting.
Bottom line, there are now top govt officials who have 100% direct proof and knowledge that the USAF did 911, and the specific names of the indiividuals involved (except one AF General) have been disclosed by two different parties. It is impossible to discount Dr. Steve Pieczenik, Gen. Albert Stubbelbine, Dr. Alan Sabrowsky, and many US and foreign politicians who are coming forward. For example former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel has now come forward publicly and said 911 was an inside job. He carefully meters his words but he has taken a stand and is setting up a means to force the issue politically and in Congress. Prof. Fetzer and Gov. Ventura are doing inductive reasoning, taking street level evidence (most of it scientific) and inducing causality. Dr. Pieczenik, Gen Stubbelbine and Dr. Sabrowsky are dealing with direct admissions and first hand knowledge of theose that did it and admitted it. This is much better in a court of law especially since it also fits with the vast majority of the street level scientic evidence. Some of us know who the subcontractor companies were that helped the USAF and how they did it.
by Preston on 02 July 2011 - 20:07
Now for hard core ether sniffers. Some real, actual conspiracies documented in history. As philosopher George Santayanna satted those that do not remeber the past are doomed to repeat it.
One of the question I have been asked over many years repeatedly is "who do you think has hijacked/bought off" our US Govt and pulls the strings at the top. Now in order to discuss this, one must deal with theories and best evidence which is testimony from those who asre associated with the "string pullers", the super-elites. I will list some critical sources below which support the idea that there is an anglo/american control axis, with "the city of London" at the center or true nexus on control which is a separate country like the Vatican having its own police force and diplomats and pays no taxes to the UK. The best evidence available to date is that "the city" which is a world merchant banking center has been trying to reunite England and the USA since the revolutionary war was lost. These are the folks who used narcotics as a weapon of war against the Chinese (see Opium Wars, Boxer Rebellion in you favorite encyclopedia for information of this and the Brritish East Indian Company, the Russel Trust(Skull & Bones), Lucis Trust, etc.). Some hsitorians say that this group is the super-elite power structure that controls the US shadow govt.
http://www.silver-investor.com/charlessavoie/cs_dec04.pdf
The following book published in 1937, considered a classic. Was banned in some areas of the USA. Examines the power structure of the American elites that allegedly sold out to the british or were agents of them in the first place.
http://www.amazon.com/Americas-60-Families-Ferdinand-Lundberg/dp/144372761X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1309638667&sr=1-1
US Shadow Govt. The following is the best description of it, but there is general agreement of most experts on the "military industrial complex" that President Ike warned us about that essentially this description is accurate. http://www.apfn.org/apfn/shadow.htm
One of the question I have been asked over many years repeatedly is "who do you think has hijacked/bought off" our US Govt and pulls the strings at the top. Now in order to discuss this, one must deal with theories and best evidence which is testimony from those who asre associated with the "string pullers", the super-elites. I will list some critical sources below which support the idea that there is an anglo/american control axis, with "the city of London" at the center or true nexus on control which is a separate country like the Vatican having its own police force and diplomats and pays no taxes to the UK. The best evidence available to date is that "the city" which is a world merchant banking center has been trying to reunite England and the USA since the revolutionary war was lost. These are the folks who used narcotics as a weapon of war against the Chinese (see Opium Wars, Boxer Rebellion in you favorite encyclopedia for information of this and the Brritish East Indian Company, the Russel Trust(Skull & Bones), Lucis Trust, etc.). Some hsitorians say that this group is the super-elite power structure that controls the US shadow govt.
http://www.silver-investor.com/charlessavoie/cs_dec04.pdf
The following book published in 1937, considered a classic. Was banned in some areas of the USA. Examines the power structure of the American elites that allegedly sold out to the british or were agents of them in the first place.
http://www.amazon.com/Americas-60-Families-Ferdinand-Lundberg/dp/144372761X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1309638667&sr=1-1
US Shadow Govt. The following is the best description of it, but there is general agreement of most experts on the "military industrial complex" that President Ike warned us about that essentially this description is accurate. http://www.apfn.org/apfn/shadow.htm
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