Reply to Shtal (Interesting facts, for believers) - Page 51

Imagine that, you calling someone else strange, I find that very ironic.

Nobody expects to wow you Ruger, that's not the point.  That's the point you're making, but it's not the point from the other side of the equation.  You expect everybody to be wowed by what you deem wowable.  But nobody else could possibly see it a different way.  It's got to be your truth.  Why?  And why is my truth important to you?  If I'm not expecting you to live it, why should I even tell you?  What signifigance does my belief have, in relation to yours?  That I resist being forced into a way of life, instead of being able to choose?  Yes, I take exception to that, as everyone should.  This is a double edged sword that's being swung and eventually, it will bleed its master.

Moons wrote: He posted the Ten Commandments again.........I can't believe it.


Because I can, I am easy going and do I like the movie, btw... I post it to amuse myself.




Ruger1, I don't drink beer or wine based on my interpretation of the Bible, someday I might explain why?
And I cannot compare my IQ-level to yours, I was not here to impress you but speak what I know in the public open forum... And while being here all this time I learned the mistakes I did, but I will move on and try to be better person.



Shtal.

beetree wrote: The problem, I see, with calling man the "opposite of God," even after his original sin is the fact that yes, since God is all that is good and great, and man is lableled as His opposite, it ignores the times when humans are godlike in their ability to emmulate the goodness and purity that is God.  See what I am saying? 

And really though, it is no surprise that the idea of an opposite is necessary to give contrast to experience or existance. (Trying to avoid the semantics game so the concept is understood.) So, if you want to throw away  the word "opposite", and substitute "contrast" to help understand that opposable differences are needed to make something we can sense as different, I believe, the idea still holds true.



Bible says in 1 Corinthians 6:2
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you,

So yes, worthy humans they will be godlike, they will judge this sinful world.


Even Adam and Eve at one point they were godlike until they sinned,

Here is my old post about them when I responded to Two Moons.

Did Adam and Eve were capable to differentiated the good and evil before the fall?

No one could claim that the fall of Adam and Eve in which they weren’t able to distinguish between good and evil. They had the power of the mind, far beyond our modern abilities. Adam was known/knew secrets of the nature; he was given the gift of prophecy. This properly to understand the meaning of God's prohibition to eat the fruits of the tree of knowledge; good and evil, it is useful to delve into philology. In Hebrew text: of the Bible, the verb "to know - (jada) - means not purely external knowledge, and the knowledge on their own life experiences. That is, Adam had to distinguish between good and evil, but he did not have to learn from experience of evil, should not take up the evil in violation of God's will. He should know the only life, the truth, and the good, the source of which is God. This knowledge meant union with God. There are a few different points of view, according to which knowledge itself is not evil, but the distinction between good and evil implies a lower level of existence. If you were in God, you rush to him with the mind and senses; the desire to know is the same thing is God, the desire to know the evil would mean removing the person from the contemplation of God, the falling away from God, that’s the one of the desire to know evil, which was already a sin.

"And, of course, if you don't want to be judged by Christians, don't judge them either.  They are not all the same. "

Okay, LMAO.

 This properly to understand the meaning of God's prohibition to eat the fruits of the tree of knowledge; good and evil, it is useful to delve into philology.
 

What is it that you think you are saying with the above sentence? It is pretty incomprehensible to me.  Also, using the "Wizard of Oz" as an example of imagery for GOD, I think is a very poor choice. The Wizard was a sham, a con-man. All smoke and mirrors! 

It always kind of bothered me, the part of the story where accepting Eden, and therefore perfection should have been enough and could have been enough. If snakes were only just kept out the garden. Yet God let the snakes in to tempt and obviously knew man and woman would fail to appreciate perfection. 

Why? Just maybe, because they didn't appreciate it for what it was, because there was no contrast to describe imperfection and trusting God's word for everything probably made their God given- human brain, redundant. Perfection must be stiflingly boring at times. 

Just a thought to chew on for the evening fun... 
 

 

phi·lol·o·gy

   /fɪˈlɒlədʒi/ Show Spelled[fi-lol-uh-jee] Show IPA
noun
1.
the study of literary texts and of written records, the establishment of their authenticity and their original form, and the determination of their meaning.
2.
(especially in older use) linguistics, especially historical and comparative linguistics.
3.
Obsolete . the love of learning and literature.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/philology


And here is wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philology

Quote from the link: the "serpent" in the Garden of Eden could not be taught as being Satan because the serpent is not identified in that passage as Satan. Yet we believe that the serpent was Satan and teach it with conviction because the whole body of Biblical revelation makes it clear.
In John 8:44 Jesus calls Satan "the father of lies" and we see this master of lies at work in the garden in the form of a serpent. "Did God say...?" Satan asked deceptively. Gen 3:1.  The Apostle Paul called Satan "an angel of light" (2 Cor. 11:14)..


http://www.goodseed.com/learning/article/isaiah-14-ezekiel-28/



In the interpretation that Satan appeared to Eve in the form Angel of light, and God called him serpent because he deceived her.

Maybe I was being feisty,,lol,,sorry,,

I just see this as being futile,,And I hate lengthy repetitious posts,,They are not profitable...