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Dwayne2


 I did not ask you if the "advice is sound" or not.
I asked you: WHAT WOULD Y-O-U DO IN SUCH SITUATION
Tall tale!!??
Calling me a liar? The situation which I have described 
is an honest  truth. Who are you that you are  making statement like that about me?
I assure you, that every detail described have  happened. Except I left some points out like that I sprained my ankle in the process, and other unrealted points... I can give you other situations which have happened to me too. However let me make sure that I understand you properly. You do not even believe that such event could happen?  Obviously the trainer is referring to such situation. 
 Thus again . 
What is your "sound advice" for such situation? You either believe that such situation could happen. That is since you are stating that advice for such situation is not sound. Or you do not believe me and that such  situation did happend to me or can happen at all and then why to worry about the soudness of the advice of the trainer xxxxx? 
You can not have it both ways.

Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com

I think the advice is sound. That is exactly what my street savvy DH always said is what he would do against a dog attack, go for their throat and choke. Of course he has a lot more muscle to accomplish this, so I'm not sure what the outcome would be if I tried it.

beetree, what's your opinion on the other 'advice', the one the OP related to start this thread--grab the dog by the jowls, take it to the ground so that it's on it's back, and then sit on top of the dog?

Personally, I'm OK with the grab the dog part, though I'm with Hans on where to grab--I don't want my hands on either side of the dog's jaws where he can turn his head and get my arm--but taking it to the ground and then sitting on top of it?  Naaah...I'm going to want it away from me, if possible, or I'm gonna keep hold of it's throat; if I'm down on the ground the dog gains an advantage because we're not really built to work at that level...

I agree with Hans that folks like mail carriers DO need to have a basic plan of action in their heads since these kind of encounters are a common hazard in the job, but I doubt there are many who would be able to pull off the original advice without getting more seriously injured than they would if they used Hans' method.  Frankly, I think the first line of defense for a mail carrier would be to use their mailbag as a shield/weapon, and put that forward to meet the dog's charge and absorb the first bite...

Hexe, Sorry for being unclear:  I was talking about what PRAGER did, grabbing the attacking dog by the throat (and my DH would say to also apply the choke),  while the lady opened her door!

I would never dream of sitting on a dog for any reason!

 I have been in a situation like Prager: I worked at a no-kill animal shelter in AZ and one of our new arrivals, a Dutchie/Great Dane, came for me like my own personal assassin.  I was in the middle of an enclosed yard picking up poop and someone had just let him into it for exercise.  Keep in mind I am barely 5 feet tall and female.  He came at me with murder in his eyes.  I went into survival mode and grabbed him by the throat.  He didn't bite at my hands because his target was my face, but once I had ahold of him I had to wrestle him backwards until he was pinned against the chain link.  We had a catch pole and people ran to help, but I didn't let go of that dog's throat until I was sure he wouldn't take my hand off.  This wasn't because of any crazy dog training method, just instinct.  Ever after that the dog tucked and wagged his tail when I came in the yard with him, submissive as can be (no he was not put down, he was eventually adopted out to some poor family, but that is another issue.)

It is amazing what we can do when s..t hit the fan. In sitations like this:Never say die, or you will.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com