What was I thinking....? Loose Pit Bulls ? - Page 5

Ugh.. This is why my pitties (who if they got in your yard, would wiggle waggle all the way up to you, to lick your face off..) get a lot of the "OMG IS THAT A PITBULL!!!! THEY IS VICIOUS!!"  Its these "retards" (so sos so sorry if that offends you) that cant train and socialize their dogs that cause this. Bad breeding, fearful nerves, and just plain stupidity for ANY breed.. GSDs, Dobies, Rotties, heck, even poms, poodles, and the such.. are having the problems they have. My neighbor has 3 dogs, one is a choco lab, the other is a yellow lab, and a gsd mix.. those labs.. (you know family friendly pets/breed) will take your hand off if you put it over the fence.. they are a PITA, and everytime I let my dogs out to potty, I always check to make sure his dogs are not out, as they bark, fence charge, and wont leave my family, and pets alone the entire time.. But of course, as soon as I let my dogs out, he has to let his PITAs out.. This is forcing me to have to put up privacy fencing to keep my kids fingers intact, and keep them from standing in the corner of our fences....and barking the whole time. Of course the man has no control over his dogs.. and I am this close..to knocking on his door.. They got out last year, and tore apart another neighbors small mix..

My suggestion... paintball gun, camera, and take the proof to your neighbor, and the Animal Control. A paintball in the butt, is gonna get them moving.. and since they are white.. lol Red and Green would be a great holiday greeting! ;0)

Good luck.. and take care.

Only has a top jaw?  That is a fighting dog no doubt about it.  IMO there is only one solution, a .40 cal one before you or someone else gets killed.  Same goes for the owner if he threatens you.

Oh, I didnt think you were bad mouthing the Breed! I KNOW there are some bad examples of the breed out there.. :o( Same goes for all breeds. Sad really. But yeah, sounds like fighting, and or baiting.. The White Male could be a bait dog, since he has no lower jaw. (ie cant defend himself) And the Blue Male sounds like he needs a paint ball to the butt too.. It just sucks that you cant feel safe in your own yard. Its comeplete BS IMO. I agree that owners of any breed, need to be responsible. But with Pitties being bred to be animal aggressive, your in for a constant fight with your live stock. Mine like to chase little critters.. the neighbors cat included.. I take the time to watch, and teach the leave it command..  sounds like this redneck neighbor of yours needs a lesson ... (cant vocalize what kind I'd do.. haha)

:o( 

Keep us updated! And a bag of flaming dog poo on his porch wont hurt..

Missy

When I was young we had a spayed mix about the size of a spaniel, Bootsie who was a house pet.   We moved to the country and though she spent time as a house pet, Bootsie also got to run free with us kids.  She was old and fat and didn't leave our property unless she was going with us.  Then the neighbor down the road got a full grown GSD bitch that also got to run free, all of the time.  We quickly learned not to walk our dog past their place because the dog would attack any dog on sight.  She got quite a reputation in the little township down the road for tearing up peoples dogs. One day we left for church and when we did, we left Bootsie outside.  (She panicked if left inside alone and would go thru a window).  When we came home, Bootsie was there waiting for us but when I reached down to pet her she cried and my hand came away covered in blood.  She had been torn apart!  We rushed her to the vet and she survived with many stitches.  We had our suspicions but didn't see the attack so we didn't do or say anything.  We did however notice when the GSD came onto our property, Bootsie would go into attack mode (she was never dog aggressive) and we would have to pull her away from the windows until the GSD was out of sight.  One day, I came home from school and overheard Daddy telling Mom, "We don't have to worry about that GSD anymore."  I pestered him until he admitted that he had been out hunting when the GSD showed up and charged old Bootsie.  Dad blew that bitch away.  Shoot, Shovel and Shutup worked for us.  It's not the breed, it's the owners.  My dad loved dogs, loved GSDs.  But when it came to protecting his little dog, it didn't bother him a bit to shoot that bitch.  I'm sure it would bother me even less.  When it becomes a threat to life or limb, property or loved ones, it is no longer a dog but a threat to be dealt with.  You can't stop to think about it being the owners fault and not the dog's fault.  You have to protect what is yours.  Shoot, Shovel and Shut up.  You should feel no guilt about it.  The owner sure as hell feels no guilt or the dog wouldn't be running loose to begin with. 

 What is this about not having a bottom jaw? 

ProudShepherdPoppa, how does that make it "a fighting dog for sure"??? 


I guess I really have a lot to learn about Pit Bulls. My gamebred Pit Bulls are not animal aggressive. I don't see anywhere that states a Pit Bull is or should be animal aggressive. Fighting dogs do not have to be, and OFTEN are not animal aggressive. 

American Pit Bull Terriers are NATURALLY more animal/dog aggressive... APBTs are the UKC registered version, (AKC does NOT recognize the APBTS)  while American Staffordshire Terriers are the SHOW AKC, UKC bred versions, and they too have a SMALLER but still NATURAL other animal/dog aggression, and if not properly raised, socialized and exposed to other animals, pets, dogs, blah blah, they can, and most likely will be more apt to be more aggresive/drivey to those other animals. NEITHER "version" should EVER have any HUMAN aggression whatsoever. They BOTH make HORRIBLE "guard dogs" BUT, will, and have protect their family if needed..often to death.

When you get those idiots that push the natural tendancy to be more prone to Animal/dpg aggression.. you get dogs like those that MM had an issue with, and or Fighting dogs. Dog fighters do NOT want any AM STAFF in their lines, they want all APBT. The APBTs are the "fighting" line, and the AM STAFFFS are the show, more laid back type.
A Definition of True Game Bred Dogs is :
Game means the ability to a do a task when the odds are stacked against the animal. When a normal animal would quit, a game one will not. "Game" does not mean, aggressive, violent, etc. All it means is that an animal has the will to win against all odds, and never to back down when a normal dog "cur" would give up. Some dogs are good fighters and can often win before gameness is even tested, due to a good mouth or wrestling ability etc; however, this IS NOT GAME. Game is when a dog shows massive courage and fighting spirit when losing. The highest extreme of this is know as "dead" game. This means a dog that will fight to the finish even if this means to death (no matter the odds). Various terriers have also been considered game when fighting underground quarry much larger and stronger than them; although, horrifically wounded the terrier will continue the fight.

Gameness is a result of genetic manipulation by breeders. It is not a natural state but never the less one admired by most who recognize it. Indeed even animal rights activists sometimes express admiration for this quality often so rare in human beings. Dog men often argue that to maintain gameness dogs have to fought in order to select which ones are game. There are others who think more humane alternatives can be found. Some people believe gameness is a worthy trait and game dogs are in fact more friendly and stable with human beings than so called "fear biting cur dogs". A game dog is indeed a very confident dog and so biting a human out of fear or anger is highly unlikely.

Regardless of that dogs natural instinct, a Game bred dog is bred to be courageous, not aggressive. :o)

This is the old family red nose from Ireland. They are real. Shoot them with a paintball and they might look around to see where it came from, if they weren't doing anything at the time. My son has raised these for about 20 years. He socializes these dogs from the time they are born. I wouldn't give 10 cents for one. But I'm around these dogs alot. MM as I said in my first post If they are on your place SHOOT THEM until you know they are dead. The hardest thing about these dogs is to screen people good enough to let them get one. Be carefull.
hank

Proudshepherdpoppa:

This white bull of some kind  is shorter than yours and is not all pitt...I believe some other kind mixed (bull)    He has no lower jaw to use ,,do not know..never got that close..but he runs up to your car or truck while you are idleing down the road,,and  bites your tires and does put holes in them...BJ  had both tires on left side, ruined and with two holes in tire....while you are moving......because the dog lives to the left of your truck when you leave my sons driveway...to exit....same with the neighbor on the other side.....one day a stranger came down road and the white bull hit her tires and actually rolled under her car and came out the rear...and it didnt kill the poor dog..All the time the owner is cursing all of us , name calling and calling law and telling BIG TALES about what all of us are gonna do to his dog and HIM>>>lol..



Both neighbors have been  attacked but he couldnt get his mouth into their leg  just got the blue jean..

If this white dog does get your leg or foot  you have two holes... That is all I know about this dog...WHat we have is JURISDICTION problems...

one dept says not mine...the other says not mine either...so TO COURT WE GO>>  I filed charges last WEDS>>

YR

 Hank, that's a good looking dog. But it doesn't have a red nose, lol. 

I highly doubt MM is dealing with anything resembling that dog.

YR, I still don't understand what you mean by it having no lower jaw. How on Earth does a dog live and eat with no lower jaw???

And BTW, folks, there are dogs who are killers in the pit and sweethearts out of it. Just sayin'. Fighting has zero to do with anything relevant in this thread.