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by shrabe on 17 January 2010 - 19:01

Thanks for that info Nancy. I am still new to the cadaver detection dog world, and as for pseudo scents, I was speaking as to my opinion only, nothing more. I also did not realize the chemical study was out for a long period of time, as I just started to read about it, and I apologize if I found some of the "facts" lacking, as I was going on memory. If you are asking about the dog I was speaking of, she could detect drops of blood, and strands of hair, her work was confirmed, and she was involved in many searches in several states. From what I understand, she was not trained to do trace. We also keep training logs and I use as much detail as I can with regard to my training sessions.

Ironside- I have never heard that about sea bass, I would question whether that was true, and I will ask about it, I have heard about pigs though.

 


by Ironside on 17 January 2010 - 20:01

1doggie  Exactly?????

by Ironside on 17 January 2010 - 20:01

1doggie  Exactly?????

by Ironside on 17 January 2010 - 20:01

I have checked the Internet but I also can find nothing about Sea bass and the possiblity of a dog confusing this odour. There have been a lot of suggestions by the parents as to how this scent of cadaver came to be in the car trunk...Spilt fish oil...dirty nappies...etc..

I would be very grateful if someone could reply to my previous question...cadaver dog  picking up on several places and being wrong...is this possible.? Cadaver dog and blood indicator dog.....two dogs hitting on all the same places???

by Nancy on 17 January 2010 - 23:01

I would not coment on the percieved reliablity of another dog. That is for master trainers and courts to untangle.
And certainly someone who has seen the dogs being worked.

Did the handler of the 2nd dog know where the first dog alerted?
How close in time did the 2nd dog follow the first?

 


by Ironside on 18 January 2010 - 17:01

Hi Nancy, the handler is the trainer of both dogs...The cadaver was sent in first to the home..there was a 2-3 hour difference before the blood dog was sent in.


The car... there was a twelve hour difference again cadaver went first.

by Nancy on 18 January 2010 - 20:01

Well, there is some argument about even running a 2nd dog if the first is so relaible but it is often done in cadaver, which is a very complex scent.

That said, the ideal confirmation dog would be a completely different dog handled by a different trainer. It is just too easy to cue the dog without knowing.  And then that confirmation dog would only be given the area to search with no other info than that which was given to the first handler--that is the 2nd handler should know nothing about what the first team did.

But I don't think there are any hard and fast rules on that.

by Ironside on 21 January 2010 - 10:01

Thanks Nancy ..the dogs are two of the best we have in England and they have not been known to be wrong until this case that is. I have said before that there seemed to have been some problem with Forensic and the case is now a 'cold case'.
I wish to thank you all for your insight to these amazing dogs and I too hope one day they have the recognition they truly deserve.





 


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