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by CrashKerry on 15 December 2009 - 13:12
Temperament & health is of most importance to me above all..
Which is why you offer a male for stud that had DJD elbows.
Which is why you offer a male for stud that had DJD elbows.
by Kerstone on 15 December 2009 - 17:12
Yes, I have one male who has Good hips, 1 normal elbow, and 1 elbow of the lowest grade according to OFA... I weighed out all of the pros and cons regarding his conformation, temperament, pedigree, and many other aspects, and at this time I've opted to breed him rarely & very selectively. Better to at least know what he has - there are so many breeders out there still not checking elbows, and I've opted to be open about it and post it publicly, which many breeders (yes, even those "top" well respected breeders) would sweep it under the rug or lie, or use some excuse about an injury. DJD Grade 1 never causes any lameness or discomfort in a dog's life, so I'd much rather selectively breed a dog with that in one elbow, rather than to be breeding dogs that would produce EPI, IBD, spinal problems, temperament issues, allergies, etc. :o)

by Mystere on 15 December 2009 - 20:12
Just checked out your website--everything, including pandas. Interesting...

by Rookabadooka on 15 December 2009 - 23:12
This topic makes my stomach turn over. To destroy a dog based on coat color when all the other wonderful qualities like personality, wisdom, loyalty etc. are still there breaks my heart. Take a look at my avatar pic. There are people, average non-breeder people, who would be happy and lucky to have such dogs as part of their family. If this issue ever arises PM me first I'll give/find the little fluffy butts a home.

by luvdemdogs on 16 December 2009 - 07:12
Yaaayyy Kerstone! Keep me in mind if you ever have a nice shorthair solid liver or liver tan. I've been looking for one from good healthy parents for quite awhile.
And - I gotta say - that Panda looks really nice, too. It's really nice to see you taking your breeding seriously. I am not as fond of panda coloration as I am of livers though - I really love their looks.
And - I gotta say - that Panda looks really nice, too. It's really nice to see you taking your breeding seriously. I am not as fond of panda coloration as I am of livers though - I really love their looks.

by CrashKerry on 16 December 2009 - 13:12
That panda's mother is the result of a mother/son breeding, which was obviously done to propagate a mutant coat color. Yes, that's highly responsible breeding.

by Rookabadooka on 16 December 2009 - 13:12
My dog is not a "Panda." That is like a name brand cause it is a gene mutation associated with a specific line of GSDs. She is just a little mutatant fluffy butt. I have been told she is a piebald, or irish spotted.
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