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by peachpie on 03 July 2009 - 16:07
Mystere,
Thanks for anwswering. I have no problem with your answer. I have found the people willing to help me understand the last 3 months of my life and I will offer to them what I can. I was simply sharing my experience with Kraftwerk as you seemed to be an interested party noting the amount of threads you post. You don't wish to be my friend, fine. I wish you well, I'm not playing the martyr I truly love the breed and will continue to learn all I can. I am trying not to be "sucked in" to anything. I guess the thing we have in common is the Bottom Line of your last post..
Thanks for anwswering. I have no problem with your answer. I have found the people willing to help me understand the last 3 months of my life and I will offer to them what I can. I was simply sharing my experience with Kraftwerk as you seemed to be an interested party noting the amount of threads you post. You don't wish to be my friend, fine. I wish you well, I'm not playing the martyr I truly love the breed and will continue to learn all I can. I am trying not to be "sucked in" to anything. I guess the thing we have in common is the Bottom Line of your last post..
by thezoo on 04 July 2009 - 16:07
It is a correct assessment that I contacted PETA in good faith. I felt deeply compelled to correct the wrongs being wrought upon the innocent souls born at Karftwerk to a heartless man with ZERO compassion. At the time I had been freshly faced with atrocious behavior that will continue to put puppies at risk of severe and/or fatal illness, that will then go inadequately treated leading to unnecessary suffering. I was still ignorant as to the depth and duration of Wayne Curries history with employees, parvo and inhumane treatment (As has been documented in legal recordings). I was unaware of the private legal proceedings at that time, and was dissatisfied with Animal Services response. Although I was informed that my contact info had been turned over to the prosecutor ( who was apparently already sitting on previous reports!). I called numerous times to speak with the officer assigned to the case and never recieved a return call. In desperation I turned to a powerful and persuasive voice. I most definitely do not agree with PETAs extreme views, but I needed an authority with a voice that would be heard. Someone needed to listen to the irresponsible and horrible activities occuring at the kennel. Suffice it to say I was deeply, emotionally concerned for the MANY puppies born at Kraftwerk, I knew PETA would care.
Responsible breeding to improve the breed with the priority being health/temperament I can live with, breeding for profit with no regard for the health/welfare of your product... completely unacceptable... who the hell do people think they are that they have the right to treat other living beings as a disposable commodity!
Mystere... I guess I understand your perspective now... Like Wayne, you are also driven by selfishness and/or a personal agenda, not compassion. I obviously don't agree with you, but $$ has a way of tainting people.
I personally will never accept money in place of my morals. I will never allow any animal to suffer for my own selfish needs.
I will not apologize for my actions... the dogs and puppies at Kraftwerk K-9 need a voice.
Teresa
Responsible breeding to improve the breed with the priority being health/temperament I can live with, breeding for profit with no regard for the health/welfare of your product... completely unacceptable... who the hell do people think they are that they have the right to treat other living beings as a disposable commodity!
Mystere... I guess I understand your perspective now... Like Wayne, you are also driven by selfishness and/or a personal agenda, not compassion. I obviously don't agree with you, but $$ has a way of tainting people.
I personally will never accept money in place of my morals. I will never allow any animal to suffer for my own selfish needs.
I will not apologize for my actions... the dogs and puppies at Kraftwerk K-9 need a voice.
Teresa

by Mystere on 04 July 2009 - 17:07
You don't know me at all, Teresa. You action in contacting PETA was irresponsible-period.
You admit knowing their agenda and contacted them anyway. That sounds more like spiteful payback by a fired employee than a good faith effort at anything positive. Try to wrap it up with bows and flowers all you want.
Now, what did it accomplish, as your friend peachpie has stated that PETA, Animal Control and the prosecutor's office did investigate. Are you saying that those investigations (a) did not tale place (so peachpie is inaccurate), or (b) that the investigations found nothing?
If you are as oh so superior as you are painting yourself, where were your principles BEFORE being fired?
You know, thew scores of people reading your post who know me and Wayne probably snorted their morning coffee all over their keyboard at your pathetic attempt to paint me in Wayne-colors. ROFLMAO
by Micky D on 04 July 2009 - 17:07
Mystere, I want to applaud your stance against anyone who comes on this board pretending to care about dogs, yet goes running to PETA. You have every reason to be concerned. PETA and HSUS have spent millions of dollars and years of effort crafting the idea in John Q Public's head that all breeders are exactly alike, and that anyone who buys a purebred dog dooms a shelter dog to death. Preposterous, yet look around you and you will see the signs. Remember the flack VP Biden caught for buying his family a purebred German Shepherd pup? Then, look at how PETA and HSUS howled because President Obama's family was given a purebred puppy.
KCzaja, you are spot on with your post outlining how A/R activists could present the "horrors" of schutzhund to the uninformed. Animal rightists are actively supporting breed specific laws, mostly against pit bulls. Do not think for an instant they'll stop at pit bull bans. German Shepherds could easily be demonized and targeted for banning, to say nothing of bans including the Malinois and the Dutch shepherd.
There have been documented cases of A/R backed activists getting employed at research labs and at commercial dog breeding establishments, rodeos and at meat processing plants. Who is to say we're not seeing the trend in the present situation?
We all need to be politically aware, and we all need to be ready to fight the A/R's or one day, we won't wake up to no dog sports, we'll wake up to no dogs with which to compete!
Micky
KCzaja, you are spot on with your post outlining how A/R activists could present the "horrors" of schutzhund to the uninformed. Animal rightists are actively supporting breed specific laws, mostly against pit bulls. Do not think for an instant they'll stop at pit bull bans. German Shepherds could easily be demonized and targeted for banning, to say nothing of bans including the Malinois and the Dutch shepherd.
There have been documented cases of A/R backed activists getting employed at research labs and at commercial dog breeding establishments, rodeos and at meat processing plants. Who is to say we're not seeing the trend in the present situation?
We all need to be politically aware, and we all need to be ready to fight the A/R's or one day, we won't wake up to no dog sports, we'll wake up to no dogs with which to compete!
Micky

by Mystere on 04 July 2009 - 17:07
Okay, I canot stand it.
After your last post, you don't really deserve help, but I can't stand by and watch even an idiot walk into the path of a speeding bus.
Teresa, PLEASE go back and re-read my original post on this thread. You obviously do not "get" it. YOU, of all people who have posted here, needs to take it to heart. YOU are at least a potential witness in the current litigation (WHY do you think your Declartion is part of the court documents????!!!!) YOUR credibilty WILL be at issue in at least two of the current lawsuits. Every one of YOUR posts on this site are at risk of being introduced at trial. That means thet YOu NEED TO STAY OFF THE DAMN COMPUTER!!
Please, go talk to Danny Larue, or Ms. McClendon, or their attorney, if you still don't "get" it..

by sueincc on 04 July 2009 - 18:07
Actually PETA does not believe there is such a thing as a "responsible breeder". PETA believes owning any kind of pet is animal slavery. PETA wants to put ALL breeders out of business. Don't believe me? That's fine, read a couple articles on the PETA site. This one is about pets in general: http://www.peta.org/campaigns/ar-petaonpets.asp This one is called "There is no Such Thing as a "Responsible Breeder"": http://www.peta.org/campaigns/ar-responsiblebreeders.asp

by wuzzup on 04 July 2009 - 19:07
I get it and I am not the brightest bulb on the shelf.


by Mystere on 04 July 2009 - 19:07
Thanks, Jeanne. :-)
Hopefully, all the current Kraftwerk threads have been made clear to everyone and everyone "gets it" about all of them.
I am done posting about the topic, period. I will keep checking the court documents and if there is anything I think "the community" should be apprised of, I will, of course, let you all know.
If anyone is interested in viewing the docs themselves, pm me and I will get the contact info to you.
Adieu!
by thezoo on 05 July 2009 - 14:07
So, Mystere... are you saying that in your opinion the court documents have no merit, and the shepard community has no worries?
by eichenluft on 05 July 2009 - 16:07
whats a "shepard community"?
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