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by jc.carroll on 19 January 2009 - 03:01
My biggest gripe:
Millan doesn't educate the owners, and teach them to work with the dog, form a lasting partnership.
He teaches the dog to be submissive-afraid. I like hard dogs, the harder the better; Millan's little "red zone" pooches. I don't dominate them, I work with them. It can take weeks, even longer to form a partnership with a hard and dominant dog I've just met, but I've found once you earn their respect they are the most loyal and intense workers on the field.
But Millan, he opperates like there's a quick-fix solution. He doesn't offer functional alternatives to the owners. It's my observation that he comes in, subdues the dog, then leaves. I've heard several cases, most notably a Jindo named Jonbee, who reverted to prior behavior after Millan left.
I suggest people record his shows and watch them on mute. Make your own notes about the dog's behavior, and what you see, then play it again with sound to hear his commentary. Often it seems to me he doesn't have any real understanding of what makes dogs tick. Is very easy to make a dog submit, but that's not fixing the underlying problem, just masking it by putting the dog into a shut-down submission... which is not the same as taking the first step towards a willing partnership.
Dogs and their humans are supposed to be on the same team. Millan... he doesn't impress me.
Millan doesn't educate the owners, and teach them to work with the dog, form a lasting partnership.
He teaches the dog to be submissive-afraid. I like hard dogs, the harder the better; Millan's little "red zone" pooches. I don't dominate them, I work with them. It can take weeks, even longer to form a partnership with a hard and dominant dog I've just met, but I've found once you earn their respect they are the most loyal and intense workers on the field.
But Millan, he opperates like there's a quick-fix solution. He doesn't offer functional alternatives to the owners. It's my observation that he comes in, subdues the dog, then leaves. I've heard several cases, most notably a Jindo named Jonbee, who reverted to prior behavior after Millan left.
I suggest people record his shows and watch them on mute. Make your own notes about the dog's behavior, and what you see, then play it again with sound to hear his commentary. Often it seems to me he doesn't have any real understanding of what makes dogs tick. Is very easy to make a dog submit, but that's not fixing the underlying problem, just masking it by putting the dog into a shut-down submission... which is not the same as taking the first step towards a willing partnership.
Dogs and their humans are supposed to be on the same team. Millan... he doesn't impress me.

by Karmen Byrd on 19 January 2009 - 11:01
I have to give it to CM though..he's not afraid of the challenge or being bitten lol That was a darn nice shirt he was wearing 


by Mum of Zoe on 19 January 2009 - 12:01
I think one thing everyone needs to keep in mind is that Millan doesn't "train" dogs at all. When he goes to these people's homes to work with them and their dogs, 99% of the time it's the owners that are screwing up the dog, and the dog has been allowed for X amount of years to get away with whatever bad behavior that needs to be corrected. Some cases are worse than others, and some, like dog/hybrid/whatever in the video I posted, are potentially dangerous to their owners. Not necessarily dangerous to experienced people. But that's not the issue at stake.
I view Millan as someone who brings a dog with behavioral problems back to square one, and if you watch his shows, you'll note that he gives the owners a lot of confidence, which will then carry over in their ability to handle their dog successfully.
Of course his clips are edited for TV, and who knows? He might have been working with this dog for the whole day. We don't know, and it's really not relevant. Yes, perhaps he shouldn't have used his usual tricks with this particular dog, but then, his owners might not have known he'd go for Millan like that.
You can love him or hate him for being so Hollywood, but like a few people here mentioned, at least he's encouraging pet dog owners across the country to get their dogs in better shape and spend more time with them instead of shutting them up in a crate or spare room to "deal" with their dogs' bad behavior.
I know that he used to work with mainly Rotties and Pits when he first started out in the business, and claims to still have a soft spot for the powerful breeds (probably because you can't dress them up and carry them in your purse!). He also mentioned that the only dogs he has not been able to rehabilitate were two pit bulls. These dogs would do fine for a short while, but would revert back to serious red zone aggression at the drop of a hat, and he tried everything he knew of. He doesn't have a bad track record, at least. Treat a dog like a dog!
I view Millan as someone who brings a dog with behavioral problems back to square one, and if you watch his shows, you'll note that he gives the owners a lot of confidence, which will then carry over in their ability to handle their dog successfully.
Of course his clips are edited for TV, and who knows? He might have been working with this dog for the whole day. We don't know, and it's really not relevant. Yes, perhaps he shouldn't have used his usual tricks with this particular dog, but then, his owners might not have known he'd go for Millan like that.
You can love him or hate him for being so Hollywood, but like a few people here mentioned, at least he's encouraging pet dog owners across the country to get their dogs in better shape and spend more time with them instead of shutting them up in a crate or spare room to "deal" with their dogs' bad behavior.
I know that he used to work with mainly Rotties and Pits when he first started out in the business, and claims to still have a soft spot for the powerful breeds (probably because you can't dress them up and carry them in your purse!). He also mentioned that the only dogs he has not been able to rehabilitate were two pit bulls. These dogs would do fine for a short while, but would revert back to serious red zone aggression at the drop of a hat, and he tried everything he knew of. He doesn't have a bad track record, at least. Treat a dog like a dog!

by sueincc on 19 January 2009 - 23:01
You are very right about the people he is dealing with....I recall an episode with a woman who wore only pink, dyed her little dog pink, put pink clothes on the dog, all her furniture, interior apt walls and even the lights were pink (gag). Then there was that gal who acted like the energizer bunny on methamphetamine, with the Chinese Crested - she wanted help with her hyper dog.

by Mum of Zoe on 20 January 2009 - 00:01
Oh yeah, I remember that episode! I think she had a Bichon. I know it was supposed to be a white dog, but oh man was it hard to watch that and not see a green afterimage! Her house was like living in a bottle of Pepto Bismol, lol.

by sueincc on 20 January 2009 - 00:01
Yep, that's the one!
Did anyone else notice this ad on the PedigreeDataBase today?
http://www.sessionswithcesar.com/?gclid=CM7ontj0m5gCFQMdgwodpR0vmA
I think it's video taped lessons with one live Q & A video session every two months where maybe Cesar will randomly draw your question and answer it. I'm sorry, this is just a flat out rip off.
Did anyone else notice this ad on the PedigreeDataBase today?
http://www.sessionswithcesar.com/?gclid=CM7ontj0m5gCFQMdgwodpR0vmA
I think it's video taped lessons with one live Q & A video session every two months where maybe Cesar will randomly draw your question and answer it. I'm sorry, this is just a flat out rip off.
by Sam1427 on 20 January 2009 - 05:01
I've never watched Cesar Milan. I paged through one of his books at the used book store and decided it was cr@p. I waste my time online instead of watching TV. LOL.
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