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by BRADY BEE on 14 October 2008 - 14:10
Yipppeeee it worked lol

by missbeeb on 14 October 2008 - 14:10
What was in that washing machine? lol

by BRADY BEE on 14 October 2008 - 14:10
My smelly socks LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by missbeeb on 14 October 2008 - 15:10
Liz, if you're out there, I hope you're looking at the "User comments"... hilarious!!

by animules on 14 October 2008 - 16:10
Martingales for horses here too, both running and standing martingales. Makes for confusing terminology at times. This is one style for dogs. I have two like tigermouse posted.
http://www.seriousdogsupply.com/Products/Specialty_Leashes/Specialty_Leashes/swivel_martingale.htm

by missbeeb on 14 October 2008 - 21:10
animules, that's an interesting website, I've never seen an all leather one before.

by animules on 14 October 2008 - 22:10
missbeeb, I have various items from them, leashes, tabs, and collars. I've looked at their martingales just haven't bought one yet.... They do very nice work. I bet they ship over the pond.
by ramagsd on 15 October 2008 - 00:10
The GL was initially designed for service dogs who guide the handicapped. Folks with weak hand grips that needed to manage their dogs.
It is a wonderful tool when used appropriately and is not meant to be correcting in any manner. Sometimes the most powerful correction for dog is not getting what it wants
My now deceased female was a nervous nelly. It had a calming effect on her during T-storms and allowed her to de-stress. It was also effective for her car-sickness. Eventually, with persistent training, she did not need it for most of her activities. She was not a dog who could take a physical correction well. I have seen it work well with dogs with aggression issues --fear aggression, where a fierce correction only made things worse. It is a wonderful tool that has allowed many dogs NOT get euthanisized when other methods had failed. No collar is a replacement for training. Most dogs hate it, but so what? Life is unfair. My female hated it and would pout. Soon it was forgotten once we got going on an activity.
If my mom walks my SchH dog, she insists on the GL for him as she can manage him better--and she feels more confident. He does not need it for me. I use a flat buckle and often have a pinch with a short tab on it when necessary when I walk him. I worked very hard with him as a pup to not pull: Without physical corrections.
Train smarter, not harder and avoid trainers that only see things one way
If you are trained only to be a hammer, everything is a nail.

by windwalker18 on 15 October 2008 - 01:10
What you're calling a Half check or Martingale We used to use for Dogsleding. Called them SemiSlip as they would expand enough to get over the dog's head, but closed only enough that a dog tied on a tether line couldn't back out of them, nor get strangled if they crossed another dog's line. (In Sled racing the dogs are kept on tethers waiting for their turn to be harnessed and hooked up...) The ones we used were cotton... and I used them for many years with my shepherds.
BTW, my PPD also ran on a Dogsled team with a halfbreed Shepherd/Husky and won a # of 2 dog races here in Connecticut... the guy who trained us for PPD rather wondered where a Shepherd ever learned to howl like that... LOL

by missbeeb on 15 October 2008 - 09:10
Lord knows where I'd end up if I allowed mine to pull me on a sled LOL!
Animules, I hope they do ship across the pond because I'd like one!
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