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steve1

by steve1 on 22 April 2008 - 15:04

If that is the case the same owners would go round the bend if they have to take tablets

It serious time for human beings if they think simple things like giving tablets to animals is stressful i really pity them what is this world coming too

Steve


by singaporesam on 22 April 2008 - 16:04

ah so   this topic give brainstorm to make me many moneys.  i make tablet or cap contain garlic ~ brewers yeast ~yogurt~and gunpowder~  make dog bite hard long time     make money on top of money    now what state and location to set up factory?    almost forgot   need spokesperson to sell new product  need roundeye who be very very smart   


Superdog

by Superdog on 23 April 2008 - 08:04

Surely it's a case of  a use in moderation. I have used this on Horses and Dogs for years but  not every day.

It was used a great deal in Roman times on two and 4 legged animals.

 


steve1

by steve1 on 23 April 2008 - 09:04

SuperDog

That is right i give it  to the Dogs twice a week, and it is not given to keep Fleas or LIce away on the Pigeons but it seems to help in that respect

I give it as it tones up the Blood of the bird and Dog and the Blood feeds the Body, keep the Blood right and that subject will be in pretty good health

What i do with the pigeons is to bruise a clove of Garlic and drop it into the Drinking Fountain

the Water is changed and the Drinker cleaned out, fresh water put in and the old Garlic Bulb put back this will last for two Days and then the next week it is done again twice a week


by Speaknow on 23 April 2008 - 10:04

Hi Steve, Never thought there was so much to say about garlic! As Superdog says, all things in moderation. I’m probably the very last person to jump or bow to ‘the powers that be’, but can’t see the connection. What in heaven’s name is meant by “they do not want you giving anything to the dogs in which they can not make a big financial profit from”? Who’s “they” or these “powers”? Pet food manufacturers? Who? Don’t companies make profits from garlic powders and the like too? Heck, I use it out of convenience but I’m not even overly enamored with kibble! Any first-year vet student will know that members of the onion family can cause problems in dogs (and even more so in cats). Of course it’s only a simple question of dog body weight and dosage, whereas I already said, with the small amounts involved, how my dogs never displayed any adverse affects. You’re all absolutely entitled to do as you want, just as I, so why these over-the-top reactions! “On this post you could say its made me a little mad and the reason is people like yourself and others on this Forum being taken in by stupid people who want to make more and more money at the expense of the ordinary people like ourselves and at the detriment of our Dogs, I for one will not listen to there rubbish.” And here’s me foolishly thinking I was acting for my dogs’ welfare! What stupid people? – Veterinarians? Vets also find that undue aspirin intake inflicts/promotes internal bleeding in dogs (a subject I had cause to study in depth a while back): should I therefore give them aspirin because I shouldn’t give in to the terrible powers that be, whoever they are?! Here’s one description: “Onions cause toxicity by oxidizing an oxygen-transporting protein called hemoglobin in the red blood cells. When oxidized, hemoglobin forms clumps that can't carry oxygen as well. These small clumps, called Heinz bodies, can be seen in the red blood cells when the blood is viewed under a microscope. Although a number of other compounds can cause these clumps, when veterinarians see Heinz bodies in many cat or dog red blood cells, onion toxicity is top on their list. Heinz bodies don't usually cause life-threatening problems themselves; the red blood cells can still carry oxygen, just not as efficiently. Heinz bodies cause problems by decreasing the red blood cell life span causing the dog to become anemic.”

tigermouse

by tigermouse on 23 April 2008 - 11:04

i have researched this subject over the past few days and can see a lot of the subjects have been smaler dogs that have been given large amounts on a regular basis. i totally agree with Steve on this subject and in mine and my vets opinion the benefits of garlic outweigh the bad


steve1

by steve1 on 23 April 2008 - 12:04

Speaknow

you know who i mean when i say the powers to be, you are slitting hairs, You will read reports of products being good say for Animals and humans and the next thing you read id someone has come up with something to counteract that statement and now it is good for you

It happens all the time

Why i replied to you was you had used it for some time then once you thought you read a negative thing about it you stopped using it, that was the only reason i replied to you

 I have already said  everything in moderation is Good everything which we like and is good for us,

Is not good if taken in excessive amounts that i have already printed

30 years of using Garlic with two Dogs living to a ripe old Age tells me there is no harm plus now Fred or is he going to become ill because he gets Garlic twice a week No. of course he will not

Garlic does belong to the Onion family as you say

But' Garlic is not an onion because it is of the same makeup or Species

Dogs are bred down from the Wolf

Do you consider your Dogs to react and look like wolves, No i would not think so

Steve


BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 23 April 2008 - 12:04

Garlic is in the lily family.


BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 23 April 2008 - 13:04

...cousin to the Onion. LOL


by jade on 25 April 2008 - 21:04

      been using garlic for myself and dogs 29 years.. i give garlic to my pups in their first meal [goatsmilk..slippery elm bark..blackstrap molasses.and cooked oatmeal] and for the rest of their lives..






 


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