How likely will your schutzhund dog protection you from an attack? - Page 5

Have to add a  in here reguarding this thread.    My advanced live find urban sar dog is 98 pound and fit .

He is very dark sable with an unusually large head. Well we do alot of hospital visits and after scool activities for children in poor settings. Camden NJ.

well took him out of the truck to visit some kids in an after school program ata church. Several drug transactions were in progress not too far from my vehicle. As soon as Tango came out I heard " OH S--T, ITS A POLICE DOG" AND all the ealers retreated to their cubby holes.

So bite for real, probably not but he can sure as hell scare the S--t out of them by hi

LOL Sara,

Sometimes that's all you need!

Why can packen no longer be used in trials? What is the most commonly used command now?

If it's protection you are worried about, get yourself one of these:

I unfortunately have had the experience of finding out if my big K9 male will protect me. I won't bore you all with details, needless to say he did. I may be way off, but I believe it depends on the individual dog, how the dog is raised, and of course, training. 

Don loved the post LOL. 

I think it also depends on where you are being threatened.  On home turf a dog may feel a big stronger since it's his/her domain.  Off home property could bring another result.  There are many situations that I think would play a big part,  the real sense the owner is in danger (dogs sensing the owners adrenaline flow and fear), whether the dog was on a leash and felt "back up" from the handler or if the dog was sent on by himself.  Many of you have true to life stories about dogs proving themselves but many stories are of dogs "scaring" someone (or some stray dog) and not really engaging  on behalf of the handler. I'm NOT saying your dogs would not engage, rather all that was needed was some attitude from the dog.   Would my dogs protect me.....I wouldn't know for sure unless they were put to the real deal.....and that is something I hope never happens. 

Karmen

Again I think it all comes down too training. If you train SCH. in total pray then I believe you are less likely to get that dog that will protect. The trainer I use teaches a little more on the old more serious schutzhund methods. So your dog will get both the prey and civil sides worked. He will also use a bitesuit, hidden sleave... and put the dog through a more real life stiuation. That's the reason I've chosen to work with him, I like my Sch. dogs a little more on the serious side not just prey dogs. That isn't what Sch. was supposed to be to begin with.

The genetic make up of the dog has much more to do with his ability to truely protect.  The training builds on what is already naturally there.  You can have the world best trainer work your dog with hopes it will be a police dog or a pp dog but some dogs just don't have that extra edge genetically to create that more defensive or civilness that would be needed for them to not back down from someone punching, kicking or thrashing the dog around.  A bark, growl may be enough to scare someone off but IMO that does not mean the dog will in fact "protect" you so to speak.  There are some dogs that are well bred, well balanced that can successfully do both SCH and PP.  If you own that type of dog and are doing SCH adding in some introduction PP style training then your odds are greater that your dog will take the fight to the end.  Again it really all depends on the dog and the ONLY way to know for sure is to put it to the test. 

IMO I put more emphasis on the genetics than solely on training.  Some dogs have it and some don't. Period.  Doesn't matter if they are sport dogs, pets, or whatever....the one thing you can not change is who the dog is genetically.  The training you can change and work the dog differently to achieve certain things necessary for real life situations.