26 year old Iraq Veteran Gunned Down At Home - Page 48

4pack, maybe I would have too.  It depends on the context.  This swat attack appears to have involved a number of errors of context and practice. The problem is that the marine vet had no police record, and a swat team should not have been deployed against him.  He was apparently being targeted because of his brother's history.  A group affidavit in support of a grouped warrant is a travesty and a police state tactic.  

A swat team is a lethal weapon of war when deployed.  A homeowner has a Constitutional right to defend his home from anyone suddenly breaking in with force and weapons.  In florida a swat team robbed private homes after they got addicted to robbing drug dealers of money and drugs (and the drug dealers let it go being relieved not to be arrested in exchange for giving up their money and drugs.  These police who turned criminal got caught when they started robbing wealthy homes on non-drug dealers too). 

4pack, how would you feel if a swat team suddenly broke into your home in the middle of the night after throwing in flashbangs, killed your dogs and cat, and then used the worst profanity imaginable, slammed you to the ground face first in a blatant assault, handcuffed you and then dragged you out and held you down for hours, later on letting you go after they figured out it was the wrong house, or that their meth infested informant was wrong? This happens far too often.  A persons home is his/her castle according to common law and the Constitution.  Swat teams used against civilians is police state tyranny and excessive force.  In my town we had a swat team break into a vietnamese home and a gunfight ensued and the homeowner shot one of the police with a 12 ga shotgun.  Fortunately no one died.  The swat team hit the wrong house, read the adress number wrong.  The house was trashed, shot up, cupboards ripped off, etc. all due to complete incompetence and police state tactics.  Tell me this sort of attack on innocent people by out of control police using the foulest language possible and direct murder threats such "I am gonna blow your mo***f***ing head off to a 6 year old child is okay".  It is much better to use the tried and true methods of surveillance and arrests away from one's home with no danger to children.  And why do these swat relish killing all animals they come accross?  Why all the foulest profanity?????  Far too many swat come accross as adrenalin pumped up thugs and enjoy killing people and animals in a blood lust frenzy.

4pack, I am saying the typical use of swat is unConstitutional with few good checks and balances in place.  It is an extreme nazi/stasi type weapon deployed by police officials and alphabet officials that are separated from the citizens and the communities and really don't care much about their welfare. Arrests should be made by uniformed police the way they used to be made before swat was started in LA by darryl gates who had security clearances and knew all about the govt drug trafficking. 

I also made the point when the govt and intel brings in 95% of the illegal drugs and supplies high powered weapons to the drug cartels and gangs to be used against the American citizens, border patrol and police, this is very, very serious corruption at the highest levels of govt.and has transformed our large cities into urban war zones.  Public awareness is the first stage of changing this.  It must first be exposed and the facts are available for anyone that wants to dig and do some basic research.  I cited many different good sources of evidence and fact because my statements were ridiculed, and I as the messenger was attacked, rather than any serious discussion of the facts and what to do about them.

Do you think I enjoy this, laying these harsh realities out?  No, but as I said, I am old and I am very concerned and I want tio inform folks what is the root cause of "swat gone wild" which is the growing tyranny and police state tactics we now have such as homeland security (taken from nazi law), the so-called "Patriot Act" (which is just the opposite), the "Military Commissions Act", TSA sexual groping and illegal unregulated use of high powered Xrays at the airporst to spread to all transporation centers, shopping centers and sporting events with random road blocks, and the so called free trade treaties Nafta, Cafta, Gatt and Wto which have exported almost all manufacturing and heavy industry out of the USA.  And folks wonder why we have so few new jobs.  And now we have the big build up of an internal national security state under the new American Gestapo, homeland security and all this is completey unConstitutional, but as George Carlin so well stated, "nobody cares".  Go to www.youtube.com and search for george carlin on "education" or "who really runs America".  Nobody has said it better.  It's up to us to change it for our children.

With many swat teams, no safeguards are in place to protect from wrong address, mistaken information from drugged up felon informants.  Swat have no direct contact or relationships wityh the community.  Any police expert will tell you community contact and the community policing model is by far the most effective.

Swat is a loaded military assault weapon of war unleashed in communities against innocent civilian victims including women and children. Over-reaction and brute force with the most extreme profanity and vile, bloodlust attitudes appear to accompany the deployment of these militarized police swat teams.  There is not much difference between a SOG kill black ops team and many swat teams. The only differnce is swat is supposed to do everything but pull the trigger on those inside the home, whereas the "wet boys" are reqired to do so and "clean the area". Take the well publicized example of the Mayor being hit with a swat team and his two wonderful dogs shot dead.  Some druggies had shipped a small box of marijuana to their home unknown to the mayor and his wife and the package sat outside.  The response of the police, send in swat, kick in the door, kill their dogs, guns to the head, use the worst vilest profanity imaginable, espress homicidal rage during the home invasion.  Result:  The mayor and his wiife knew nothing about the "grass", never ordered it and the swat attack was all a big mistake.  http://articles.cnn.com/2008-08-07/justice/mayor.warrant_1_dead-dogs-cheye-calvo-trinity-tomsic?_s=PM:CRIME 
Oops. As any criminologist or expert in violent crimes will tell you serial killers typically start out killing animals.  It is one of the best predictors of a future murderer. Police that wantonly kill dogs and cats for bloodlust pleasure are mentally ill and likely to commit the murder of humans camoflaged as "all in the line of duty".  Every major urban police dept has access to animal control specialists that can handle any dog (tranquilizer guns, long looped control poles, ect.).  There is no need to shoot the animals in 99% of the cases this happens. Here is another case of swat cruelty to animals and use of excess force. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng6mfpZ2kR4  


 

Jim.... Honestly? The Dyson thread? I thought that one was as crazy as the rest, lol.  I would love to know how many who read that thread, actually bored holes in their DYSONS, lol.   PRICELESS.

Bazza, you are correct. I certainly did not drill any holes in my Dyson. It certainly was better than the nonsense he posts here or about his knowledge of temperament and working abilities of dogs.

Hakuna Matata Preston, I'd buy a brand new "Dyson" for you.. just to watch you drill some holes in it.

(lol)

Oh I'm definately in agreement there BE, I would buy him as many as his little heart desires just as long as it keeps him occupied.......ELSE WHERE!!!!!! lol.

Look, if you were top academic geniuses with long histories of successful professional careers in research and consulting and had completed successful careers doing such, your trying to ridicule me and/or discredit me because I repaired my Dyson rather than replace it is still irrelevant to the subject of this line of posts which is the issue of whether swat teams and militarized police are out of control and used inappropriately as part of the creeping tyranny of the new american gestapo.

And as far as the Dyson, I had an old Dyson which was clogged up with dog hair. I couldn't take the cannister apart because the screw heads were rusted, so rather than  buy a whole new cannister which is expensive or try and drill out the small screws (not easy to do in plastic), I drilled access holes and removed the impacted hair throught these, which I then covered and sealed with duct tape. I had talked to a vacuum repair man and he said most of the Dysons he took in had that problem which was caused by not emptying the cannister before it was full if one has dogs with longer hair (solution: don't fill cannister beyond 1/2 way).  So, I thought some of those who read Oli's forum would want to know what can cause a Dyson to lose performance with GSD hair and some options for restoring it.  Now if you think those posts should prevent me from making any specific points in regard to this different subject matter "swats gone wild" and "creeping govt corruption, incompetency and tyranny", please inform the Moderators and ask them to bar me or remove my posts.  And while you are at it maybe ask them to make it a violation to discuss repairing vacuums. Let's see if they agree. By the way my Dyson still works as good as new and the easy access to the cones provides a quick and  easy way to clean it and restore it to 100% performance without disassembling the cannister.     

Now back to the subject at hand, creeping Govt tyranny and in this instance, "TSA gone wild".  Another example of this: http://www.newsherald.com/news/mother-94767-search-adult.html 

Look, if you were top academic geniuses with long histories of successful professional careers in research and consulting and had completed successful careers doing such


Just curious Preston, exactly what are your credentials which make you an expert in "..the creeping tyranny of the new american gestapo?"    

gg, I don't believe that I stated I was an expert in "..the creeping tyranny of the new american gestapo?" .  I may or may not be.  Since you are curious I will say that I have had extensive experience for many years dealing with related issues professionally.  My education, licensing, academic credentials and any long term research and "consulting" experience are really not THE issue here. The main issue here is an an important one and is the question of whether or not the use of militarized police swat teams is a symptom of a creeping tyranny of the Govt, and a symptom of the new American gestapo, which some experts are calling homeland security and the TSA.  All the facts and anecdotal victim reports are based on public documents that are available for anyone that wants to dig a bit.  I have provided a substantial number of key search words and references where to start for anyone interested in doing their own research.  I was hoping there would be an honest discussion of the facts from all perspectives.  My conclusion so far is that militarized police swat teams should not be deployed in residential civilian areas because there is far too much risk of innocent life being lost and unnecessary danger to police too.  I object to the use of some of the worst, vilest profanity and thuggery imaginable against women and children and the blatant execution of family pets, most of whom pose no threat.  There appears to be far too much blood lust and thrill killing frenzy unleased intermittently in some of these home invasion raids and far too many incidents of search warrants issued with wrong addresses, based on false informant information.  These swat teams tend to be overspecialized and completely separated from the community. They are surgical strike raids much like spooky team raids(see the book, The Last Mission: Spooky 8 by Bob King), except the police are supposed to hold off on the trigger unless they see a gun.  Now imagine this scenario which will happen sooner or later.  What would most police officers (or even swat team officers) do if their home was swat teamed in the middle of the night?  Most police officers sleep with weapons close at hand and would grab them and get shot if swatted by mistake. In my city we had an incident where some trigger happy police opened up on an undercover detective and shot him numerous times even when he announced he was a police officer, because they were in a heated adrenalin rush.  He is now disabled. Criminologists have taught that needless thrill killing of dogs and animals is often a predictive indicator of murder later on, and this applies to triggger happy blood lust filled swat and other police. This whole subject of deployment of militarized swat teams in residential areas needs to be fully discussed and I believe a whole new stratgey must be developed and implemented, such as new models of community based policing.       Since you are curious  T The