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BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 17 June 2011 - 10:06

 He's a RP supporter. It's the participation in social issues that will save this country. He was one of the guys at the Jefferson Memorial for the dance party and is one Adam Kokesh's best friends. Here.. Veterans Against the War conduct Operation First Casualty in Denver, Colorado on July 4, 2007. 


Again in New York.Again in California.

About 30 states IVAW did Operaton First Casualty.

by beetree on 17 June 2011 - 12:06

Yeah, Slamdunc,

This thread has become a major yawn fest, a repository for drivel.

by Preston on 17 June 2011 - 16:06

Yes, BabyEagle, it is very difficult for folks to fit this information into their heads.  But as you know our great Founding Fathers that started this country and who created the US Constitution and Bill of Rights knew, a politically informed and active public is necessary in order to preserve the republic.  When I was in high school we had to read and know the Declaration of Independence, Constitution and Bill of Rights, Federalist Papers, and memorize the Pledge of Allegiance and take it every morning facing the US Flag and placing our hands on our hearts. We were tested on all of it and had to pass.

So many folks nowdays haven't even read this important history, know nothing about the Founding Fathers like George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Paul Revere or what they fought for and established. Many don't even know that the revolutionary war was fought to stop the tyuranny of King George against the colonists.  The final straw that broke the camel's back and started the war was when the British took housing from citizens without buying them and started going door to door and collecting the colonist's guns, which they needed for hunting and self defense.  The situation we have today is almost identical with tyranny by the central govt growing daily such as worthless TSA sexual gropings, unlicensed, illegal  use of powerful Xrays, etc.

Reading the Founding Father's famous quotes on the reason for the second amendment and the Constitution and Bill of Rights in General supports exactly what you and I have been presenting here in this topic line. We live in a day where truth and patriotism draw a yawn and many don't have a clue that their central govt and banking has been hijacked by offshore, foreign based interests just as the Founding Fathers warned (they referred to this as an "enemy inside the gates").
We now live in a society where telling the truth is a novelty and truth is viewed as "conspiracy stuff by crackpots" with the Govt and major news media dispensed propaganda viewed as the real truth. Cry maybe, but yawn, no.

by Preston on 17 June 2011 - 16:06

What can happen when the militarization of the police goes too far:

http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2011/06/you-can-no-longer-think-of-yourselves.html 

Militarization of the police is actually the nazification of the police when it becomes extreme.  In mild form it biases police judgement and tends to create polarization between the police and the community, which need unity. In extreme form it fresults in unjustified murders of civilians and ruined careers and lives of individual police offenders. 
The militarization of the police can and does results in an increase in tragedies and losses for both individual policemen/women and civilians.

by beetree on 17 June 2011 - 16:06

Preston, it is simple:

Why should everything we know be thrown out, just to listen to your version? That certainly doesn't make sense.  Just like Uglydog's rants, it is true, if one researches for themselves, then the half truth's you espouse, become apparent. 

Have fun with this though, glad you two found each other. I'm leaving this thread in peace.

Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 17 June 2011 - 18:06

Delusions of grandeur, beetree, wherein some people convince themselves that they have some keen insight that the rest of the world lacks.

by Preston on 17 June 2011 - 18:06

Your knowledge should not be discounted or thrown out and I hope you don't think I implied that.  What new information anyone learns can be as important as what anyone else has learned.  New knowledge can be added to it to supplant it when one becomes aware of it such as certain "hidden in plain sight" govt corruption and rakecteering by the GOVT (criminal RICO).  If everyone works together we can expose high level govt corruption which needs to be kept in secret in order to prosper and exist long term.  Exposure is the first stage of change. 

When we have problematic situations such as deaths of a citizen vet with no priors and no drugs found, a questionable warrant, and questionable tactics employed (first shooter now claims a mistake--finger slipped on the trigger), this case suggests a problem with the overmilitarization of the police and use of such as a weapon of war, not what normal policing should be.  I suggest this is a byproduct of high level illegal govt drug trafficking coupled with the arming and support of drug cartels and gangs by the BATF's secret programs which has turned some urban areas into war zones, with frequent home invasions and kidnappings. Hopefully we will find out more of what went wrong in time if there is not a high level coverup instituted which could happen if this was a set up by the higher ups.

The USA is in great difficulty right now, it has been hijacked by offshore banking and corporate interests that don't care about the American people at all, but just want to asset strip us with RICO ponzi scheme and massive taxpayer bailouts which provide huge mult-million dollar bonuses, take us to perpetual unwinnable, unjustified wars that bleed us dry financially (some experts say we are already technically bankrupt as a nation and 47 states are technically bankrupt.  Unless we get this corrected soon, the future for the USA and its citizens doesn't look healthy. I want safe urban areas and good relations between law abiding community members and the police, for them to work together to keep crime low and drug lords out. This requires an exposure of high end govt drug trafficking and RICO type corruption.

Here is a story out today which suggests how many even in alphabets and govt not to mention the public are uninformed about American Drug Lords & DEA misdeeds.
http://www.madcowprod.com/06162011.htm                     

You might find George Carlin's comedy act take on who runs thing informative and believable (available on www.youtube under "George Carlin: who really controls America"--explicit and not for everyone). 
 

Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 17 June 2011 - 18:06

"The USA is in great difficulty right now, it has been hijacked by offshore banking and corporate interests ..."

You act like this is something new.

4pack

by 4pack on 17 June 2011 - 18:06

War is never pretty cry babies!

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 17 June 2011 - 19:06

I think George Carlin hit the nail on the head on many topics in his later years.
The real truth is, it's out of your hands and has been for some time now.
You might as well enjoy what you have left....lol





 


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