Are there too many dogs being bred? - Page 4

well mine did come from a big kennel,i'm guilty of that, but only because of what i liked. the sire and dam the problem is kennel blindness. everyone thinks there dogs are just as good or better then the next persons and that's the problem. most of what is being bred, shouldn't be! i hate the term backyard breeder as well. if you are a small time breeder should you ship them off to a big kennel for 8 weeks ;) LOL

You hear every day about all these breeders getting rich!!! Experience tells me when a litter goes home it is payday! Experience tells me paydays are way too many months apart to come out ahead. Experience tells me that a breeder that makes big money does NOT feel about his dogs like I do. My dogs are a living, breathing, part of me--- not a commodity! My experience tells me that regardless of how many dogs are bred there will always be those standing in line to buy what someone "has a license to steal" to sell at the prices they charge. AND perhaps the most important thing--- for anyone who truly cares about the breed, as EVERYONE on this board obviously does in their own way, maybe. Experience tells me that it is EASY to make a small fortune in dogs. You simply start with a large one! Brittany, I don't know how the AKC causes more breeding--- They are trying to figure out how to register more of those that are already bred. Perhaps like the OFA improving hips? If all it took were xrays some dogs would be xrayed several times a week and the problem would have disappeared by now? When it comes to "pointing fingers" there is never enough--- fingers or time! If one is not part of the solution they "don't have a clue" or are part of the problem Morgan

i hear just the opposite. i don't know about the big kennels, but i'm sure they have to pay for kennel help,training,food,shelter, vet bills, god forbid the bitch has to have a c section,puppies coming back etc... i think it is more of a status symbol to have the best.JMO

A BYD can be anyone if they meet the criteria. A good breeeder can house his GSD's in the backyard etc.. does not matter, they know the breed and take it serious...

I know of at least 2 top kennels that live soley off of their dogs. It's too bad because only the dogs suffer. ---------------------------------- One thing to keep in mind, is that even the top kennels do not make their living solely relying on their breeding animals. These people are often trainers, handlers, helpers, judges, etc., and many have a "second" job (I say this, because the dogs always get put first--if there is a problem with the dog, the "2nd job" will be let go before the dog problem will. This is the sign that they care about their dogs. The same person who would bash a breeder for not taking proper care of their dogs (those who have more than a few dogs know how time consuming it is to care for multiple dogs properly!), would slam them for not having another job, or having another job. Some people never have anything nice to say unless they benefit from it one way or another.

Ha ha ha. My pups are born downstairs in the basement these days, in a specially constructed whelping kennel, heated in winter, cool in summer. They don't make it to the backyard (or the front porch) till they are old enough to to tolerate a breeze. Does that make me a BB? (Basement Breeder?)

Ha ha Shelley... I guess I would be a BB "bedroom breeder" or a BKB a "back kitchen" breeder;-) Birdy...

A backyard breeder is one who pays over $1,000.00 for a pup with the full intent to breed usually as soon as the pup is able to do. These same people think that if they take a poor quality GSD and breed with a Good one all the pups will be high quality.

There are absolutely too many dogs being bred, and not just by backyard (uninformed, uncaring, clueless)breeders. A lot of people who are familiar with SV requirements think all you need are two dogs with working titles, conformation ratings, and hip certificaitons and they are ready to produce Siegershow winners. I don't think enough people who breed really are honest with themselves when it comes to evaluating their own dogs. None of them are perfect! Do you know what your dog's faults are? Did you search for a stud dog that will compliment your dog's assets and help correct the faults? Is the breeding partner KNOWN for producing offspring with the traits you are trying for? Or are you just breeding to the dog you have, or your friend has, the one who's famous, or who looks good on paper?. Does your dog have any health problems that aren't covered by the standard hip & elbow screening? Eye problems? Von Willebrand's disease? Thyroid problems? Severe allergies? Epilepsy? Dogs with problems like this shouldn't be bred, and yet a lot of people do it anyway. Is your dog's temperament as good as it should be? Are they environmentally sound? Temperament problems are very hard to eliminate. Dogs without sound temperaments should not even be considered as breeding candidates. Does your dog really have "something special" that is worth passing on?

there are still really good dogs being produced from the larger more commericial kennels but you have to know your dogs, there pedigrees, there progeny on both ends. Most of the time the large kennel has a superstar and will breed it to a shitkapoo and say its the next best thing people must remember its a combination. Sometimes the larger breeders have a nice combo they way you buy from them is to purchase what isnt for sale thats usually the better stock thats going elite or for themselves. I have bought several adult dogs that way i went to some breeders to see some pups and parents while were there they asked us if we would like to work there dogs and after working some adults we made offers on them. we liked what they where producing so thats why we wanted to see the pups so we cut out the two year wait and spent a lot more money but we already new what we where getting Steve