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by GSD Admin on 07 April 2014 - 05:04
Show me some dinosaurs that the great Noah saved in the loving Gods big flood. You know the flood that killed everything.
Anyone ever almost drown? It is not a nice way to die but a God decided to kill everyone by drowning them when he could have just snapped his fingers and killed who he wanted. Strange thing this murder by God thing.
Something so simple made so hard by the believers. SMH.

by Hundmutter on 07 April 2014 - 07:04
Coming back for a moment to that question of whether the bible
is "true, inerrant, infallible, ineffable", does anyone else find it
interesting that the quotations offered to explain the xtian line are
all about the "word" of god - i.e. NONE of them refer to the:
book / written word / equate god's instructions with any documentary
source (even Moses' tablets of stone)/ identify the bible AS the "word
of god" ...?
by vk4gsd on 07 April 2014 - 08:04
I do wonder why the bible was pieced together from copies of copies over hundreds of years and subject to various committee's. aprovals.
Why was it written by soany people reflecting bronze age language and technology.
why didn't god just wavd his finger and make the whole thing just appear at the time of creation.
you have to make so many excuses for your brain to be able to believe it was written by an omniscient omnipotent all good creator of the universe. it just maked more sense to assume it was just made up by people.
by vk4gsd on 07 April 2014 - 08:04

by Hundmutter on 07 April 2014 - 14:04
It was just that ggturner offered those bible quotes as evidence that the
bible is/was the 'word of god', when actually they are only 'evidence'
that 'god said' , @ some point, you (we) had to follow his instructions.
IF 'he' wrote the bible, would he not have pointed its existence out, at
the time ?
I know you grasp, Pete, that the books of the bible were drafted at different
times, by different writers, and in different languages ... but still the New
Earthers say they have to 'believe' every word of their bible is true, and is the
word of their god. Implication being nobody should argue about that. I suppose
their only way out of that claim is to accept that their god either just 'magicked'
the book into existence at some point, or somehow commissioned men to write
bits at the appropriate moments in history.
And both of those 'possibilities' open up whole new questions / cans of worms,
don't they ? But virtually every issue argued in this thred - and so many others -
hinges on the question of what the bible IS, and how much Truth it contains.

by Carlin on 07 April 2014 - 14:04
Anyone whose faith is based solely upon words on a page, whether that page be the Bible or not, proceeds according to a mere idea, usually someone else's.

by ggturner on 07 April 2014 - 16:04
Vk4: no, I do not think science is a big conspiracy. I just wanted to know what you would think if hundreds of scientists doubted the theory of evolution. After all, science is about observations and facts. What if hundreds of legitimate scientists doubted the evidence of evolution?

by ggturner on 07 April 2014 - 16:04
Hundmutter: the Bible is the "word of God." They are one and the same.

by Carlin on 07 April 2014 - 17:04
I think ggturner should host a discussion on the statistical chances of abiogenesis having resulted in life.

by ggturner on 07 April 2014 - 18:04
Spontaneuos generation abiogenesis .....what a laughable theory. I leave it to a couple experts
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_LTaPIK7maY
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