Resolve the WDA/USCA - Page 4

Then if the US bows to SV pressure is USA going to file a complaint with the SV on the GSDCA for breaking the rules for years of not following the proper conformation guidlines of the SV ?. and Will Henke step up to the plate there? Fair is Fair.

The USCA can file a complaint .. sure .. and should if they think it is true.  The WUSV and it's membership would be the correct judge and jury for all complaints or rules violations.  The WUSV runs the show for all of the WUSV members in the USA and the world and does not need the USCA to tell the other WUSV members what to do .. their rules and their job.  The WUSV membership and it's leadership is the court for all disputes and rules violations and what the outcome will be of a dispute is up to them to decide in their own way and their own time.  Each member of the WUSV is obliged to obey the constitution and rules as a requirement for membership regardless of what other members may or may not be doing that they don't agree with.  Each member of the WUSV has a voice and votes at the meetings.

It,s right in the GSDCA by laws. It proudly states that they will follow the AKC standard! Doesn,t take a brain surgeon to figure out that is a glaring contradiction of the SV. But it,s been that way thru there existance.  

The USCA should file a complaint with the WUSV.  The USCA can file complaints against any WUSV member they believe has broken or is breaking the WUSV rules of membership.  The USCA should obey the constitution of the WUSV, follow the leaderships directives, and obey the will of the majority of WUSV membersship as they signed and gave their promise to do when the USCA became a member of the WUSV.   If other WUSV members break the rules and need sanctions or discipline it is the WUSV's job to do what needs to be done as they see fit and when they want to do it.  The USCA is a passenger on the WUSV train and doesn't get to toot the whistle or control the throttle.  The USCA should keep it's word and do what their WUSV membership requires.  The WUSV and the SV has not created any pressure or crisis.  That was all Roetemeyer and the rest of the USCA leadership and membership when they decided to break the WUSV rules regardless of their pledge to obey them.

booboo, UScA instituted a policy that WUSV disagreed with. the WUSV has communicated that disagreement and given UScA the steps needed for compliance and continued association with the WUSV. it's really pretty simple and hardly a cause for the continued boorish behavior you display.

jmo,
Rik

Rik .. denial is not a river in Africa .. read the Henke letter.  There was a consitutional amendment passed in Sept 2012 that was only passed by the membership of the WUSV because the USCA would not obey the rules.  Despite the rule being in the constitution the USCA still did not change the bylaws or rules they had written into the USCA organiaztional rules that are, were and always have been in violation of the WUSV rules.  There was no interpretation or discussion or any other form of weasel words that the USCA has used.  The USCA violated the rules and they did it on purpose and in full knowledge that the WUSV leadership, membership and constitution prohibited what they were doing.  Sounds like the "I didn't know the speed limit wasn't 135 mph defense".  The USCA voted for the very WUSV rules they were and still are breaking.  Change the USCA bylaws and stop breaking the rules.  Telling the same lies over and over will never make them true!!

Rik,

Spot on. We (the USCA) may disagree but the WUSV is indeed the final arbiter.

However, If the USCA accepts what I believe to be a very flawed interpretation by the WUSV including sanctions not meted out by the membership as described in the constitution, then this rancor/unnecessary "rivalry" will fester for another day.

If able, we should "fix" it correctly and irrevocably and use this little period as an "opportunity."

Just my personal two cents worth and likely not worth that.

:)

Kevin

There are at least 6 other nations with two WUSV members including Great Britain and Begium.  There is nothing to "fix".  The leadership and membership of the USCA should obey the rules and keep their obligations which were clear when the USCA signed up to the WUSV!!  I think you learned in elementary school that the "I saw someone else doing it first" defense never works with the teacher or the principal.  The teacher and the principal enforces the rules and gives out the punishment to the guilty and the guilty get there punishment because they broke the rules.  Maybe the leadership and membership of the USCA should read the WUSV constitution before they act and not after they are schooled in it.  Roetemeyer said in one GBM minutes that "he explained to Henke".  What a lie!!  Henke and the WUSV leadership are no small minded fool like Roetemeyer.  In Germany they have taxi drivers with more education and intelligence than Roetemeyer.  The USCA followed the wrong leadership on the WUSV and it can't leave the SV and WUSV because without them all of the USCA paper kingdom of judges, scorebooks, and breed registries will cease to exist.  Looking forward to seeing what new lies are contained in the letter of surrender the USCA sends to the WUSV.

Looks like the problem is "fixed" .. get busy on those bylaws and let's hope conduct and character match the words spoken.

Sent to all GSDCA-WDA members Friday March 8 2013 by President GSDCA-WDA Daniel Yee


Dear GSDCA-WDA Members:

Jim Alloway (USCA President) flew to Germany to meet with Dr. Wolfgang Henke (WUSV/SV President) this morning to discuss Dr. Henke's recent letter to USCA.  The meeting concluded with a clear confirmation to Mr. Alloway that GSDCA and WDA are considered a WUSV member and are entitled to all rights and privileges as any other WUSV Member Club.  Mr. Alloway agreed to comply with the WUSV Constitution and to advise his membership of this information as soon as he returns to the U.S.

 

I will keep all of you advised of any further developments.

 

Daniel Yee

President

GSDCA-WDA

bubbabooboo = the president of the WDA? wow, I thought he might be busy with other things now