Reply to Shtal (Interesting facts, for believers) - Page 4

You know me better than that.

"Tell me what you have seen "evolve" before your eyes"

Here is an example:

"As a candidate for the Illinois state senate Obama had said in 1996 that he favored legalizing same-sex marriage; but by the time of his run for the U.S. senate in 2004, he said that while he supported civil unions and domestic partnerships for same-sex partners, for strategic reasons he opposed same-sex marriages. On May 9, 2012, shortly after the official launch of his campaign for re-election as president, Obama said his views had evolved, and he publicly affirmed his personal support for the legalization of same-sex marriage, becoming the first sitting U.S. president to do so." (see Wikipedia for footnotes)

Not the Hulk, of course, but still a good example of Moon's statement "Everything evolves."  Or is that "revolves?"

Can anyone say Flip/Flop/Flip?

BE, you are so outside the realm of the ridiculous, it's hard to even imagine!

I'm going to start and finish with this for now, it's been a long evening and I'm to tired to know even where to begin with this BS, so here is as good a place as any: "I guess you're used to If an "entity" cannot account for it's own being, then it's contingent, because it depends on something outside it's self to explain it's existence."  Funny, that's precisely what you do with the Bible!

Hopefully, I'll have enough time tomorrow after work, I should be home before 3:00.

I have hot water YAY!  My S-I-L couldn't fix it because his hands didn't fit in the access panel, so I ended up having to do it.  But I couldn't be happier, it was a $6.00 fix!!!!  So at least I can take a nice hot shower and relax. 

In the meantime, here's some reading.  Creation is NOT a theory!

Just a Theory

I don't know if changing ones stand on an issue qualifies and this is a bit off topic and very political.

But if the man had an honest change of opinion due to enlightenment it may very well be considered evolving though I find it a real stretch in this form.

Nature, particularly eco systems evolve rather rapidly and are quite obvious to those who look.

Natural selection, invasive species, climate change, human impact, all drive evolutionary changes in an eco system.

Hi travels, didn't see you till I posted.....:)

Hey Moons, how have you been?

I'm not to elated about the water heater at this point, go figure.  I took a shower and the water is just hot enough that I didn't need cold-----> setting: VERY HOT mid-range

Well, I won't totally complain, it's still better than Arctic!

But enough about my water, LOL  I found a fabulous website that has all of the scientific explanations and references for just about anything you want to find, from the Scientific community.
It also lists ALL of the creationist claims and gives SCIENTIFIC evidence of the fallacies for each and every one.  I'm tired of researching and their references are stellar, so I won't argue with you about it, I will link the particular claim you are asserting.  So, if you want to save us all some time, look it up yourself before you even want to post it and find the response and post it yourself because if you won't, I certainly will!!

Just keep in mind that comparing Evolution to Creation is the same as comparing Astronomy to Astrology!  You decide.

Talk Origins

I'm as good as I expected..lol
Did you replace a thermostat?
If so, adjust them over a couple of days by using a thermometer at the closest faucet, I rebuild them often.

No, I didn't replace the thermostat, just the thermocouple.  Guess that's next on the shopping list, I'll keep working my way up until it's fixed or dead.

Is this is a gas water heater your speaking of?
Oh well, glad you got a hot shower.
I couldn't live without my hot water....LOL

I'll tell you what, it's nice having a son-in-law who is willing and able to fix things.  I've always been the one who installed and fixed EVERYTHING in the house and I still do.  But if he knows I have a project, he makes himself available and shows up.  He's finishing a two-story addition on their house and has done all of the work but the plumbing and electrical and he took time to help me with the water heater.  I was married for 35 years and my X wouldn't have walked across the room to help on his day off.  At least I taught my daughter one good lesson on how not to choose a man