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 Michelle, regardless of why a dog is rehomed, I feel badly for their situational upset and doubtless confusion (albeit temporary). Yes, they bond again and most are fine. Some take longer than others. Of course the dog doesn't know WHY, it's being rehomed or feel badly that it's faulty, LOL!!! I was just saying that because that is the reason many times when someone buys a dog for sport or breeding, as opposed to a family or personal companion.  

If you haven't bonded with Robby in all the time you've had him, then I think he would definitely be better off in a different home. It's just seemed a bit contradicting to say you're giving him up due to HD because he can't work in SchH and then say you're' going to title him before you sell him and ask the board as you did, what people do as far as compensation for training. That's where the idea that you're trying to increase his value came from. I didn't say you "shouldn't" title him. I said it won't make a difference, IMO, in a rehome situation whether he is titled or not if he's dysplastic. Do what you feel is best for Robby; that's all anyone can ask. 

Ok, really done this time.............;-)

Jen,

The last thing I'm going to say (unless some other comments are made):  I don't think I'm being contradicting.  I'm going to finish his titling next spring (so say about 5 months).  Vet says working him until he starts showing pain should be fine.  But when will that be?  If its in the next 5 months then I wont get to finish him. In a year? 5 years?  I don't get a healthy Schutzhund partner for the average Shepherds working career.  My dog's working time span will most likely be truncated.  Work Robby until he starts showing pain, give up Schutzhund for a while, or move onto the next dog, that is the question.

Michele

I had a young dog with one bad hip as she had almost  no socket on one side . . It was genetic not due to injury diet etc. One was good one was really bad.

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 Barb, I think no socket is a different issue than remodeling. I base this on what I have seen on dogs with KNOWN injuries who had been xrayed before and after. Can't say for sure, of course, but on films where I see 2 congruent sockets w/one nice round hip and one w/some remodeling, I can believe an injury helped or caused that to happen, whereas one deep socket and one shallow at a young age seems more genetically based or even congenital- just one of those "$h!+ happens" things. 

One bad hip and one good hip may be environmental as the article states, or it could be caused by bad formation of spine. If the spine is fine then it is probably environmental.
This dog has what I would call "working hips" and in any case I would estimate normal working life up to at least 8 years old or probably more especially if the spine is fine. That is if kept in shape , not neutered, and fed meat based nutrition.  Which  can be said just about any dog.
Positioning could improve rating significantly since I have seen even small adjustment cause big difference ( or not). Not just positioning of the femurs but more significantly positioning of the pelvis needs to be adjusted here(!!!).
 I personally would not breed this dog based on what I see. But I work him as a normal dog. This dog would probably pass in Europe as" fast normal" or definitely not worse then "noch zugelassen". There are many dogs with this rating being bred in Europe.
 If you love the dog I would not get stuck on this  or be worried  and lose sleep over  it. If you sell a dog as a protection dog, police dog,  family dog (not for breeding) then it may increase the price slightly if you put title on him. I do not know if it is worth all the work though...
P.S.1. I do not understand the reason for x rays at 12 mo as a condition to fulfill the warranty. If the hips are bad at 2 years they are bad. Period. I'd give another dog to such client. Not a replacement. Just give them another dog when ever they are ready for one.
P.S.2. sedation is making hips look worse and not better. Positioning is easier to achieve. None of my 2 vets demands sedation. That is a ploy to charge you more. $$$.  OFA allows for sedation or not.
Prager Hans
http://www.aplinek9.com

Yes Jen i agree about the socket  and injury/ My point was that unilateral HD can be genetic not always injury. I have learned what dogs to steer clear on. This was the second one I had with a similar pedigree. I have another that has the worst I have seen on both sides. Genetics are the most important.  i do not think that this dog that is posted will ever be lame on it. Many people work their dogs hard at a young age jog hike horseback for miles  and do not understand that this could affect the hips. I am not saying that this was the cause in this case.  The xray is not the best and would look better with better position but he stll has one side that is thickened. If the people wanted a breeding dog and purchased it for that reason and the dog failed the SV after new xrays as  I do not OFA I would replace the dog. IMO he would be able to work fine and live a long life. I would re xray send copy to breeder before sending in and go from there.

 I agree w/both B.Anderson and Prager. I don't think Robby will ever need to know his hips are "bad." I had a long post about what I would do if he were mine, but I deleted it as I felt I was beating a dead horse. 

Hans, how long do you guarantee hips? How long past the dog's second birthday?

Best is if you read my warranty.

Here are highlights.  I do require that the dog is x rayed between 2- 2.5 years. I require that the xrays are send to me before they are send to OFA so that I can check them for positioning and general quality of the xray. If the dog had been purchased older I give my customers 30 days to check the hips. I am very accommodating to others who snoozed and who do it later. Not after 10 years though:)
I will the not dispute OFA. I reserve the right for the buyer  to send the dog back to me at his expense, but I have never done that. 
There are other limitations. Like warranty is void if the dog had been bred , neutered , spayed or sold . I warranty the dog only to the original buyer. Warranty may be transfered if I am informed about the transfer.  
But as I said best read my warranty and its limitations on my website.

Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com

I have a 13 year old ACD bitch lying beside me right now that has moderate unilateral HD.  Never did SchH with her but her hip did not affect her active life.  She weight pulled, did obedience, herding etc.  She never even showed signs until she was over 10. 

I would not let this diagnosis automatically rule out a full and productive life.  Keep him fit and lean and if he is anything like my girl, he will be fine.