Awful little white spot...... - Page 4

I don't see it occuring more frequently. It doesn't bother me if there are a few white hairs or a small spot that will eventually dissapear or blend in the coat. The blaze or larger white spots does bother me, especially on an otherwise solid black dog, however it's just a personal dislike for me and is acceptable to other people. I see it as a genetic occurance that pops up from time to time, probably from some of the breeds used in the total makeup of the gsd, occuring more in some litters then others, dependent on the genectics of each parent and what the combination produces. Personally, it is only acceptable to me if the spot is on the feet or chest.
                                                                                                                       Michael

GSD TRAVELS, thanks for your opinion.....It is greatly valued for what it is worth......

Crapwhips...MY topic line is not a question, there is no question mark behind it.......It is a statement......The question is being asked in the message box.....LOL.......Nice to have your opinion also, for whatever it is worth.......BTW, you are trying too hard to make yourself look dumb.....Better stick to being yourself...

 Wow....wow....your just such a mean person.

nona, YOU are the one STATING it's awful.  You are also the one stating that the occurance is in increasing in frequency.  YOU are the one starting thise idiotic topics when you have no clue.  YOU are the one arguing.  YOU are the one WANTING to argue, you seem to slip that into every post you make and that's called baiting.  Nobody gave any snarky answers to your snarky post.  Look in the mirror.

Michael,

Nice post and well versed.

Ibrahim

Crapwhips,
I learned alot from this forum and still learning.....I have learned some really good things, and some not so not good things......I see others being mean and I get carried away and do the same right back at them.......you are right, that isn't so nice....

Questions become ignorant if someone isn't intelligent enough to understand them......Very easy to understand why certain people would consider a question ignorant...LOL
"There's no contradiction if you read the standard".....Have you really read the founding father's standard, and understand it?.....In case you aren't aware, the GSD has changed alot... If not, the GSD today would still look like the GSDs of VS original standards.....

Puppies or dogs exhibiting small white hairs or patches on their toes or fore-chests, have been common from the beginning of this breed. It is simply due to the genetics that were introduced to create the breed.
Are they "desired" by most breeders or owners?...of course not.
They are evident in all bloodlines.....some more prominent than others.
Most puppies will out grow them, or the hairs simply become less and less,,,,and are eventually replaced by new hair growth. Some dogs will simply retain them.
The ability to produce dilutes and whites (from what I've read) is of another gene.
I have seen white patches on dogs from all colors & patterns.....from the lightest black & tans to the richest blacks, sables & black/reds.
I would never overlook a puppy or dog, that holds everything else relevant...because of "white" toe tips or spot on fore-chest. 
JMHO

I do not believe that white on chest, tip of tail or even toes is sign of degeneration or dilution  since  it is a same thing as a white color on a wolf.  
 There are other things to worry about.

Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com 

Thank you Robin for sharing your view.

Jenny78: There is a difference between a tiny white spot that is indicative of old working lines and white that grows and leads to loss of pigment in a line down the road.

Prager: I do not believe that white on chest, tip of tail or even toes is sign of degeneration or dilution since it is a same thing as a white color on a wolf.

I think what I believed or thought about it being a sign of degeneration is afterall wrong, nevertheless I would prefer a puppy or dog without white hairs on chest, feet or between toes, I understand it does not affect the working ability but to me it affects the looks and richness of the dog's pigment.

Ibrahim

Ibrahim,

Pharaoh had 5 or 6 white hairs on his chest at eight weeks and they were gone by twelve weeks or earlier.  He also has gold/brown inbetween his toes and that is disappearing.  Pharaoh has excellent pigment that is very, very black.  Both of his parents are black sable with veny intense pigment.

  
Here he is at twelve weeks and no more cute white hairs.

Michele