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by MAINLYMAX on 24 August 2010 - 01:08
I will take Malndobe's answer for 500.......Good answer.
I would use Mark as a helper for long term because he is not going
to tire out as fast.... Dean has been around long enough that if id I ask
him a question he will know both answers,.. what are you supposed
to do and what are people doing. And why.
The one thing Dean has never got in touch with is.... people love their dogs
and can use that to win. But on a good day you can't beat Dean. If he ever
graps...... that the last part of training is the trust your dog has
in you part,...He will be unbeatable.
Dean is a major trainer in the sport,....and you can bitch about every thing he does,
but he will still be one of top trainers....There is not that many trainers that have as much
experience.
.
I would use Mark as a helper for long term because he is not going
to tire out as fast.... Dean has been around long enough that if id I ask
him a question he will know both answers,.. what are you supposed
to do and what are people doing. And why.
The one thing Dean has never got in touch with is.... people love their dogs
and can use that to win. But on a good day you can't beat Dean. If he ever
graps...... that the last part of training is the trust your dog has
in you part,...He will be unbeatable.
Dean is a major trainer in the sport,....and you can bitch about every thing he does,
but he will still be one of top trainers....There is not that many trainers that have as much
experience.
.
by Louise M. Penery on 24 August 2010 - 02:08
Why don't you just keep to your AKC trials?
I'd rather be dead than participate in another boring AKC obedience trial.
don't recall what you are talking about. I'm guessing your memory is failing, confusing Dean with Leon or Thomas... who took over the club after I left.
Leon hadbeen asked tooleave the club--Thomas had not joined. Only a fool would attend a seminar either Leon or Thomas. The Calderon seminar was for the new, reborn FRSC about 8.5 years ago. Ask the old bat Vera about the seminar--she was there and has photos.
The very best seminars I've attended have been those with Jim Dobbs.
You've never been the caliber of handler who could benefit from training with anyone good.
STFU, Shelley (or is it Blanche?) I've attended. Ivan seminars, Godfried Dildei, and several with Joan Plumb, whom I credit with helping me (with her videos)put the SchH2 (high score in protection, high combined score, 95 in tracking with Ernest Hintz) and SchH3 on my old Alex vom Nord Rasen.
I'd rather be dead than participate in another boring AKC obedience trial.
don't recall what you are talking about. I'm guessing your memory is failing, confusing Dean with Leon or Thomas... who took over the club after I left.
Leon hadbeen asked tooleave the club--Thomas had not joined. Only a fool would attend a seminar either Leon or Thomas. The Calderon seminar was for the new, reborn FRSC about 8.5 years ago. Ask the old bat Vera about the seminar--she was there and has photos.
The very best seminars I've attended have been those with Jim Dobbs.
You've never been the caliber of handler who could benefit from training with anyone good.
STFU, Shelley (or is it Blanche?) I've attended. Ivan seminars, Godfried Dildei, and several with Joan Plumb, whom I credit with helping me (with her videos)put the SchH2 (high score in protection, high combined score, 95 in tracking with Ernest Hintz) and SchH3 on my old Alex vom Nord Rasen.
by PowerHaus on 24 August 2010 - 03:08
Yea, so much credit you can't even get her name right! LOL......isn't her name JOANNE? Not Joan!!!!!!!!!!
Vickie
www.PowerHausKennels.com
Vickie
www.PowerHausKennels.com
by Louise M. Penery on 24 August 2010 - 03:08
Ditto STFU,Vickie. My dog is so well trained with absolute obedience and drive containment that you or Shelley could take him on any field with any helper, have him work for you, and make you look damned good. We have never had to work on buliding drive--only on drive containment.
by ShelleyR on 24 August 2010 - 04:08
whom I credit with helping me (with her videos)put the SchH2 (high score in protection, high combined score, 95 in tracking with Ernest Hintz) and SchH3 on my old Alex vom Nord Rasen.
So who put the SchH 1 on Alex?
I'll put my box of scorebooks and show cards up against yours any day.
Let me know when you get 100 pts in tracking Louise. We'll invite you to the new club to present a seminar for all us novices.
LOLOL
So who put the SchH 1 on Alex?
I'll put my box of scorebooks and show cards up against yours any day.
Let me know when you get 100 pts in tracking Louise. We'll invite you to the new club to present a seminar for all us novices.
LOLOL
by gck on 24 August 2010 - 05:08
Dean has been coming to Keystone-Buckeye Hundesport (a WDA affiliated club) every other weekend for the last three+ months.
Keystone-Buckeye is a diverse group. We admire the skills and work ethic of our top young trainers--the future of our sport-- whose dogs are being simultaneously groomed for both national/international level sport and breed competitions. ( Who says that the "Golden Middle" has to be mediocre in either venue?) At the same time, we have families with young children whose primary interest is the "Journey" together with their dogs. One member is a lifelong GSDCA participant whose AKC champion female is being prepared for a TDX, CD, BH and SV tracking titles at the same time. We are a normal club. Sometimes the dogs are, constitutionally, far more capable than their owners and vice-versa.
Dean works, tirelessly, with each person individually, in all three phases--regardless of skill level or ultimate goals. He has an immensely diverse training vocabulary and outstanding coaching skills. (Anyone who can get my husband to jump at command has some seriously enviable powers!) Dean adjusts training techniques to suit both the character/skill level of the dog and the handler. NEVER has their been one second of abusive behavior. In short, I have the utmost respect for Dean's training expertise. (I have never met Mark.)
Personally, I feel that one-time training seminars (from anyone) often bring out the performer in the trainer--the quick "Wow" factor that our instant gratification society seems to prize. One weekend to learn and digest the fullness of what someone like Dean has spent a lifetime perfecting is simply not possible. The serious, daily incrememental work ethic that produces highly trained dogs can only come through regular, consistent training--a slowly rising curve, not a series of seminar-hopping quick fixes. IMHO.
My husband has many thousands of pictures of Keystone-Buckeye training with Dean. Time permitting, a fraction of these will eventually be uploaded to my website. My personal favorite is Dean's absolute, soul-satisfying glee when working with a visiting AKC, ball crazy, field trial bloodline black lab--one of those cases where the dog's exceptional inate abilities far surpassed the handler's own considerable skills.
Gayle Kirkwood
www.kirchenwald.com
Keystone-Buckeye is a diverse group. We admire the skills and work ethic of our top young trainers--the future of our sport-- whose dogs are being simultaneously groomed for both national/international level sport and breed competitions. ( Who says that the "Golden Middle" has to be mediocre in either venue?) At the same time, we have families with young children whose primary interest is the "Journey" together with their dogs. One member is a lifelong GSDCA participant whose AKC champion female is being prepared for a TDX, CD, BH and SV tracking titles at the same time. We are a normal club. Sometimes the dogs are, constitutionally, far more capable than their owners and vice-versa.
Dean works, tirelessly, with each person individually, in all three phases--regardless of skill level or ultimate goals. He has an immensely diverse training vocabulary and outstanding coaching skills. (Anyone who can get my husband to jump at command has some seriously enviable powers!) Dean adjusts training techniques to suit both the character/skill level of the dog and the handler. NEVER has their been one second of abusive behavior. In short, I have the utmost respect for Dean's training expertise. (I have never met Mark.)
Personally, I feel that one-time training seminars (from anyone) often bring out the performer in the trainer--the quick "Wow" factor that our instant gratification society seems to prize. One weekend to learn and digest the fullness of what someone like Dean has spent a lifetime perfecting is simply not possible. The serious, daily incrememental work ethic that produces highly trained dogs can only come through regular, consistent training--a slowly rising curve, not a series of seminar-hopping quick fixes. IMHO.
My husband has many thousands of pictures of Keystone-Buckeye training with Dean. Time permitting, a fraction of these will eventually be uploaded to my website. My personal favorite is Dean's absolute, soul-satisfying glee when working with a visiting AKC, ball crazy, field trial bloodline black lab--one of those cases where the dog's exceptional inate abilities far surpassed the handler's own considerable skills.
Gayle Kirkwood
www.kirchenwald.com
by PowerHaus on 24 August 2010 - 06:08
STFU???? Come on Louise............I have only heard my 15 year old kid say that! Is that how old your mentality is? LOLOLOL! Maybe you should put down the leash till you grow the fuck up!
Vickie
www.PowerHausKennels.com
Vickie
www.PowerHausKennels.com
by PowerHaus on 24 August 2010 - 06:08
STFU???? Come on Louise............I have only heard my 15 year old kid say that! Is that how old your mentality is? LOLOLOL! Maybe you should put down the leash till you grow the fuck up!
Vickie
www.PowerHausKennels.com
Vickie
www.PowerHausKennels.com
by PowerHaus on 24 August 2010 - 06:08
STFU???? Come on Louise............I have only heard my 15 year old kid say that! Is that how old your mentality is? LOLOLOL! Maybe you should put down the leash till you grow the fuck up!
Vickie
www.PowerHausKennels.com
Vickie
www.PowerHausKennels.com
by Steve Schuler on 24 August 2010 - 09:08
Hey Gayle!
Sounds like Keystone-Buckeye has it "goin' on!" and that Dean's contribution is able to span the spectrum of diversity that you all embrace.
Sounds good to me!
SteveO
Sounds like Keystone-Buckeye has it "goin' on!" and that Dean's contribution is able to span the spectrum of diversity that you all embrace.
Sounds good to me!
SteveO
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