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I have also used pumpkin to great advantage. The dogs seem to love it. I have always fed my dogs only raw after being boarded. There is a remarkable difference just from adding raw with kibble.

Okay, I havent caught up, but here is a quick update:  Took Cookie and pup to vet, did bloodwork and fecal on Mom.  She is emaciated and has worms, pup dyhidrated, underwieght, and worms.  He gave Mom two shots and sent home some pills and three 8 cc doses of other oral meds and pup fluids subq.  Said to keep up the wormer on pup that I started one drop every three days for two weeks.  I will vaccinate them here today (hate to pay needlessly when I can get it from the feedstore).  He and his staff agree that she is a pit though.  It really doesn't matter to me, but may make it hard to find her a home.  Her attitude is great so, pit or boxer makes no difference they will get treated the same way my dogs get treated.  Although, I will be very careful about who I give her and her pup to.   

Well that is it.  I will post pictures after they look a little better.  
Could use a name for her tri colored female puppy. (still has blue haze around edge of eye) 
Thanks for the help.  They will be available for a home in about three weeks.  Again, I will post pictures as they look better.


W

You're seriously going to vaccinate them in THAT condition? If your vet even allows it, you need a new vet. Vaccines are for HEALTHY ANIMALS ONLY.

Vets know about as much as animal shelter volunteers when it comes to breeds. If that's a Pit Bull, then I'm a freaking princess. Everything w/stripes and short hair is a Pit Bull now.

Windy, this is a very nice thing you did for these dogs.

I wouldn't suggest vaccinating the dogs now.Their imune system is weak.Read the lable of any vax and it should say for healthy animals only as Jenni said.
Sorry Jenni you aren't a Princess.lol Maybe there is Pit in her but really the structure of the head is more so Boxer...and maybe an American Bulldog/Bull Mastif cross at the most.  People want to always say that anything that looks like a bully breed and has that coloring MUST be a Pit!! Just like anything that has the coloring with a black saddle and tan MUST have German Shepherd in it!! NOT there are so many other breeds with those colorings and markings.

It is very good of you Windy that you are caring for these pups but please don't vaccinate them. Let them get stronger first
FWIW
~L~

Fact is I have puppies of my own.  I can't risk cross contamination.  I offer everything I can, but I need to vaccinate them.  It's unfortunate, but I got GSD babies and they unfortunately come first here.  Sometimes we have to outweigh the good to the bad.  I will let you know if either have an adverse reaction.
But, still thank you for your opinion and it is heard and understood. 

W

     Windy, if the rescues have anything to transmit to your pups, it's already there. Vaccinations at this point will help no-one.There really is a reason the manufacturers state "Only Vaccinate Healthy Animals".
     I know you want to do the right thing by these and your dogs, but it's more important you get rid of the worms first. one more week w/o vaccinations is NOT going to harm them. Get the weight on, and worms out first.
     You did good by these dogs, so keep up the good work!

Windy, if they have anything, a vaccine won't cure it; they don't cure illnesses; they are supposed to help prevent them.

Second, let's say you vaccinate them tomorrow; it's a minimum of about 2 weeks or so (a lot more for the pup, who is way too young for shots to have any positive effect anyway) before they have any effective immunity. So, basically, not only is it totally pointless to vaccinate them for the sake of your GSDs, but it won't do the vaccinated dogs any good for several weeks anyway, so it's really quite senseless.

The ideal way to vaccinate is to vaccinate a HEALTHY animal (whose immune system is strong enough to develop the proper antibodies), then keep them under close quarantine away from outside animals, while immunity develops (a few weeks). Any other protocol is less effective, and sometimes totally ineffective.

I would seriously question a vet who would vaccinate either of those 2 animals in their current state.

Jennie,

Just to keep things clear, here is what Windy said about the vaccine (I will vaccinate them here today (hate to pay needlessly when I can get it from the feedstore). )

The vet has nothing to do with the vaccination plan.

Jennie,

Read it again.  The vet has NOTHING to do with the vaccination plan.

Windy has bought vaccines from the local feedstore and plans to administer them herself.