banana backed & anteater faced? - Page 4

Liz, bashing is one thing. German showlines not my cup of tea but I don't go around bashing them, though I do have concerns about some of the genetic diseases from some of the excessive use of studs and close linebreeding in recent decades.

But when you see dogs that are genuinely crippled, then not saying something is to endorse it.  Maybe someone considering an Amlines will at least recognize that many do not consider them 'just another variant"

Nancy said: I would like to say I had "heard" the phrase banana or roach in response to the German Showlines. And it appears from a stack but that is an unnatural position to put a dog in.

That just prove me how you just know nothing about shows or conformation..cause you would know that the stack position is suppose to be in fact very NATURAL for the dog!! Dogs with good angles stack very naturally..but of course you probably never owned a dog with good angles so you cannot know..

You said also: Now, I am crawling back to the ugly working lines corner. LOL YOU SAID IT""NOT ME!!

july9000

Why don't you simply attack what I say and not me personally? 

My ugly working lines can scale and crawl under anything. No issues with climbing to the top of construction equipment. He has very good nerve and can work with fireworks exploding around him. He is OFA good hips and elbows and has a good back per vet x-rays. He had no  health issues or allergies and I think could eat rocks and not get sick. Very good temperament.  He is nationally certified in a police discipline by a police agency. I really could care less about the rest. 

I am sure he would not go SG at a dog show - probably a bit too long in the back, not sure on the angulation of the legs - he can work all day and not get tired..He is missing part of his tail due to an accident. . He is not "at stud" and never will be.

If the stack is so natural, how come the Amlines folks, per another thread have to start them as puppies to keep the ligaments stretched out to achieve that pose?  How come I never see dogs naturally standing in the extreme positions of some of these poses with their testicles almost dragging the ground? 

I was trying to say something decent about showdogs in that post in that I am sure the back is not all bowed over like a camel when the dog is standing naturally. IF they really stand that way, that is a problem.

Go ahead and tear him up for me
He was only 2 here so his back legs have added more muscle and he has added muscle in general
The picture is at an angle
The legs are clearly not placed properly to evaluate his appearance
He was being combed on a platform and was not able to walk into that position so his feet are placed clunky.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/460211.html

The dog on the next link is from your own webpage
And THAT is  more proper than my dog? 

http://web.mac.com/july9000/Kana_Haus/Le_Berger_Allemand.html

I would also ask if the stand is natural why, in the Westminster 2009 video, are tha handlers having to constantly handset the legs?

Now remember. This is the cream of the crop. They do look better than a lot of what I have seen. But ........you cannot convince me these dogs are efficient movers.

And these are seasoned show dogs and handlers. Do you not see the displacement behaviors and the nerve issues?

http://video.westminsterkennelclub.org/player/?id=1003941

way to go nancy!!!!

My checz import resembles your guy and is also a cadaver certified IPWDA. working towards disaster certification .

Isn't this what they were bred to be...working dogs, with great tempermants and minimal health issues.I can't see an over angulated dog staying sound and working . Anyone know of a department utilizing angullated/roached -banana backed dogs for patrol work etc?
just curious.


let the arrows begin to fly. i am sure

Videx, out of respect and sincerley

Can you please tell us which violation has occured?  I really don't know. 

Nancy: I am simply advising people on here to read the Terms of service so their posts are NOT deleted. I have read several posts over the last 24 hours which appear to confirm that this site is now being "moderated". If that is the case then the best advise I can offer is for posts to be within the Terms of service, IF they are they should NOT be deleted. I am not a moderator of this site, so I do not look for violations of the Terms of service, although I do see far too many violations. I have to say that Uglydog is for me by far the worst, and should be "totally excluded" from this site by ALL means possible.

Ok, thanks for the insight.  I hope to be able to have a lively discussion without PERSONAL attacks as having good working GSDs is important to me. I have owned this breed for over 30 years and have the best dog I have ever owned, bar none. I truly believe that both good structure AND the working ability are of paramount importance for breeding stock..

Nancy; I do not doubt your sincerity for one second. ENJOY