i'm bout to beat me a dog!!! - Page 4

OMG...i just spent 20 mins posting my reply to all of you and when i summited it , it was to long and erased the whole thing...ughhh...

i can't remember what all i had wrote, so i will try to break it down.....

DKiah--i am sorry i over reacted, you sound very knowledgable<spell?> about dogs, and your advice is greatly appreciated...you wrote>.Of course, you should have heard all this from your breeder as well and some more tips on raising 2 dogs when little miss JRT is a long way from being raised>> unfortunly i never got to meet the breeder, my mother-in-law got him for us- so i was never able to ask all of these questions myself, im sure he gave her lots of info, but she did not tell me much herself....the only thing that was asked of us from the breeder was that we not breed him to american that he was german GSD , to only breed with german, so his family line is not broken i guess? but i don't plan to ever breed him anyway--espcially after finding this message board and learning about it-the bad stuff> see guys, all of you typing and explaining and helping people does do good! lol...some do change their way of thinking..before finding this board i had planned to breed him and maybe start my own little kennel, but after seeing how bad things can turn out if your not truly experienced with it, or if you can't put whole life into it, then it's not the right thing to do...so that idea is squashed...no breeding for boss...lol

quote>>Dogs are opportunistic self satisfying creatures and they do what is rewarding to them.. your dogs are rewarding themselves off the richter scale!! <<i never thought about it this way...thanks again..really helps

everyone-thanks for you advice also--i am already using it and last night i took boss for a walk around the yard alone...it does make a big difference, and i don't have a crate but after hearing how important it is i plan to get one...it is not in my budget to buy one, but lucky for me my hubby is a carpenter and i can have him build one for me....now finding a place in my house to put it....thats another problem...lol

jettasmom--if i were to be tottaly honest with myself and all of you, i would say that he will more likly be only pet and home protection-not trained in H-P, just the "im big and i bark loud to sacre bad guys away" kinda thing...i would love love love to do something with him,and i guess im still holding onto the hope that i will get the chance to, but with so much you have to do i just don't see how i possibly could<<if i were to be honest with myself........i live on a week-2-week budget so i can't afford a trainer-i live in washington parish, louisiana and  the only trainers and clubs around here are for hunting dogs, i can't travel much..(my hubby hates to travel, can't get him to leave the state) so it would be just about impossiable to do anything serious with him unless something changed for me...

...sorry i ended up making post long again.(how can you tell when it's to long to post?) thanks again for your advice, be assured that it is not being wasted, julie

I think this question got lost in the middle of the confusion earlier in this thread, so im gonna re-post it because this is something else im really wondering about,   quote myself>>>>and the thing with my hubby, should i push for him to give more direction to boss, try to get involved with training him manners? does it matter that he doesnt since i am the one who spends the most time with him? would he be more likely to listen to my hubby than me because ---well.i don't want this question to sound demeaning to women..lol.., but does he see my hubby as pack leader more than me, because hubby is a 'man' and bigger, doesnt show affection as much as i do? or does he see me as pack leader because i do all of the training and descipline?...lol...my hubby always just says ...julie, get your dog....

anyone have any suggestions? should he be involved or not?

If he doesn't want to get involved with the dog, he doesn't really have to as long as you are there to get the dog to do what is needed. I live with a freakin' dog trainer and he wont touch my "pet" dogs. Just screams at me to get them, shut them up or keep em form running away. They don't listen to him, but again, he never really tried. They are the dogs he wished didn't exist and it's OK. It works out fine, just like before he was here. If I'm not here, they don't get any attention from him and I plan for that. I take care of them solely. Walks, training, feedings, EVERYTHING. He just wont deal with them.

Is your husbands reasoning that he doesn't have time or care, or just doesn't have the know how? Maybe if you learn and teach him, things will change? Do you care that he partakes? He doesn't have to if you have it under control. Just one day, if Boss turns into a dominating dog, he may have to step up to the plate. If your dog kicks him off the couch or starts being too protective of you regarding your husband, he will have to stand up to the dog and learn a bit. If not, his life as he knows it will change or he will make you get rid of the dog. If that is never the issue, you as a woman can do it all yourself.

4PACK-

  his main reason is the first one, every so often he will show boss affection, like today he let boss get up on the couch -on his lap-and was prtting him and lovin him, and boss was just lappin it up--then boss started licking his u-know-what and then he was like "alright get this dog off of me"....lol and thats pretty much how it goes...he cares about the dogs (esp daisy, that his baby) but he's not into trying to teach them anything,

 i don't think he needs to do as much as i do with them but  just help me a little..kinda like with the kids....i guess the main prob is just in my experience, i have always noticed that a dog seems to listen to the "man" more...like when i was a kid--i played with my dogs constantly, my step-dad only gave them a pat once in a while- he never hit them or anything but when he told them anything they would immeditly be submissive and do what he said. when i'd say, go lay down..they would just wag their tail and try to get me to play more, when my step-dad said "go lay down" they'd go lay down, he never tried to train them or work with my dogs either..i believe it was just his 'presence' and deeper voice....---im hoping that it will eventually  boss will be the same way with my hubby--as for now boss seems to think he has to listen to me and only me..my hubby will say , NO, to him, but he won't follow through himself- he hollars for me to come do it, he won't take the time to replace the bad item that boss might be carring, with a good item- things like that...im just worried that with both of us giving orders, and that since my hubby is not following through with his orders, that boss may be getting confused...

.lol..my dogs are completly oppisite from the kids...the kids won't listen to me, but they listen to my hubby...

but i guess if it not necessary, i don't have to have him do anything, i just thought maybe boss might be quicker to listen if my hubby tried to do some with him.....if it's not gonna hurt my training the dog..then i guess this is more of a marriage problem the a dog problem..lol

thanks for your help..and sorry the post was so long.....

julie

Julie-I just have to say I laughed out loud when I read the heading and saw it was by you.  Yeah, you could smack that hellion of yours!? You're as big a sap with yours as I am with mine! Even when I yell at him he looks at me like, "But it was funny, right??".  Sound familiar?

I don't mean to belittle your question. I just had to tell you that.

And I don't know why you apologize for the length of your post. Desert Ranger, Sueincc, 4pack and me go on longer than this just with insults! This is nothing!

Hope you know that was meant in jest.

dawgs--lol....how do you know me and my dog so well...you been spying on me?...lol.......no seriously, im gonna tear his ass up.(J.K YALL)..look at what he did to my couch last nite---->

 lol..it was time for a new one anyway....