Why are extreme stacked pics so popular? - Page 4

CHRIS-- your right about one thing, i should have acknowledged that you HAD answered my question, and your dog is very pretty, i could of sworn that in my last post--the one before the one you are refering to-- that i wrote that i had already gotten my answer.....and i did write that--quote>>>but i guess my question has been answered, this is my understanding--some people just like it that way, by doing something different, more extreme, they think they are making it something better (im talking about the ones that force their dog to stand that way)....also some dogs are built like that and they stand that way normally..which brings me another question...were these dogs that normally stand like that on their own, breed for that purposely? or do some just 'happen' to turn out that way?<<<

please reread the post, maybe i should have been more specific of who answered my question (the people on this post)..but i acknowledge that i got the answer i was looking for and my understanding of it. the reason i answered ceddy is because he ask me a question, i answered his question.

and how am i suppose to know that it was goona start anything between show/working line, I DID NOT KNOW THAT THE TYPE OF LINE A DOG IS MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THE WAY IT STANDS. I just learned that on this post so how could i have started this post with that in mind..why would i care if someone prefered show?why would they care if i prefer working? if i wanted to argue with someone about what kind of dog is better i would go to a totaly different breed. I think all GSD's are beautiful, workin/show....american/german...b&t/sable....seriously guys, i just asked a question...

and BTW---animules looked at the pic i posted i let me know that I perfer the way a working dog stands, the dog in the pic is a working dog--all i meant was yea that is the way i thought was more natural to stand, and i like the natural look best so if a working dog is stack is the one that looks more natural--then i guess that means i like a working dogs stack best, not that i meant that i thought the WORKING DOG ITSELF WAS ANY BETTER..sheesh.. heck before my pup was first sent to me, i had the image in my head that i was gonna get a b&t rin tin tin type dog, i didn't even know about german/american  show/working or sable's, i had the same image in my head of a GSD that most regular people do, when i first saw my pup, i thought OMG they sent me a mixed breed..i was a little disapointed , it was then my mother-in-law told me that he was a german german shepherd, so i said ok and i looked it up...finding this site...now im trying to learn about ALL different GSD..

Sorry i am still trying to learn HOW to ask the questions, but thats it, thats the last time im going to apoligize to you guys, i am not looking for an arguement ---i have my hubby for that...

P.S. to everyone else who answered my question...thanks a bunch, i know you have to take your own time out to do that--you coulda just skimmed through the post and not have bothered, but you do take time out of your own day to do it , so i really appreciate it..thanks

~julie~

And guys... When did they started the 3 legged stack??? I understand what Chris said about giving the judge a QUICK GLIMPSE of the GSDs conformation..the angulations and all... I also heard of some sort of Prince with a cape with one knee on the ground stories (probably just to describe how to go with the pose) You can also guide the dog in posing like that if the dog was excited enough and/or pulling on the leash... Skim through the pictures of the siegers through the years... It started I think after WW2 (just joking)... And I've read also on other threads that the difference between the backs of  Working and Showlines is that the short back is really being emphasized on Showlines for added agilty like in galloping and jumping...and that the working lines would care nothing about the shortback... The topline according to GSD Standards should be consisting of a high LONG wither , SHORT back and LONG sloping croup (2 long ones and one short back )...Think of this guys...notice that herding dogs predominantly has straight backs (Withers same level as Back) as compared to Working dogs with pronounced withers...I've tried to post questions on "How to improve the Withers... but to date...haven't got any answers..." Any ideas???

And guys... When did they started the 3 legged stack??? I understand what Chris said about giving the judge a QUICK GLIMPSE of the GSDs conformation..the angulations and all... I also heard of some sort of Prince with a cape with one knee on the ground stories (probably just to describe how to go with the pose) You can also guide the dog in posing like that if the dog was excited enough and/or pulling on the leash... Skim through the pictures of the siegers through the years... It started I think after WW2 (just joking)... And I've read also on other threads that the difference between the backs of  Working and Showlines is that the short back is really being emphasized on Showlines for added agilty like in galloping and jumping...and that the working lines would care nothing about the shortback... The topline according to GSD Standards should be consisting of a high LONG wither , SHORT back and LONG sloping croup (2 long ones and one short back )...Think of this guys...notice that herding dogs predominantly has straight backs (Withers same level as Back) as compared to Working dogs with pronounced withers...I've tried to post questions on "How to improve the Withers... but to date...haven't got any answers..." Any ideas???

P.S.

You can see also this type of difference in horses... The Riding horse and the Pacer... has very different type of backs...and I understand that there are RACE HORSE breeders also in this board???

why the descrepancy about length of back , croups etc, --i guess some of you folks skipped my post .. there is AN EXACT STANDARD THAT DEFINES THE GSD AS A SPECIFIC BREED -- what do you folks not understand about that ?. -- shouldn't matter if the GSD is show , working . a whatever -- this is the biggest . THE biggest hypocrisy within the breed .. THE GSD [should be ] hopefully is just one breed .. not two seprtate [ although i may concede that with all the line-breeding the showline vs. working line could almost arguably be debated as two seperate entities]

Ceddy sounds a little touchy-touchy to me...

I dont know how in the world you could be offended, Ceddy by this newcomers statement. She said it was not pretty to her and I -think-...I am not 100% sure...Maybe you can fill us in!....But I think we are all entitled to decribe what we each individually find visually appealing.

Maybe you should take those blinders off and listen to a fresh perspective...Maybe that is what the GSD world needs.

If her original post ticked you off, then the problem is your own...not hers.

         ALPHAPUP- i read your post and i agree with you, the pics i've seen of what the standered is suppose to look like , has no giant hump/curve in the back, thats why i was wondering why it was so popular, it would seem to me that show dogs/ dogs that actually show, would need to be closer to standard than than any...so why are people trying so hard to make them look different? I guess if some perfer a look other then standard, then it doesn't really matter to them, kinda like the white shepherd, not allowed/ not standered, but people still love the look/ buy them right?

JEHANNUM--THANKS

iluvmy gsd -- glad we see eye to eye -- the anwer to your question -- for decades i tried to figure out why several thing weren't as they should be -- the answer i gave to myself .. and i would invite anyone to educate me otherwise.. there are the most powerful in the GSD world .. they have the connections .. they have the political positions ..they call the shots if you want the big time then you FOLLOW what they dictate ! they have and attain the money !  that is why what i have seen - and i am dismayed that we as humans have to have ego, otives  etc etc.  -- this dog is better , my dog is better .. i want Va or this or that .. i stepped away from all the BS -- quite simply ...there are thousands of very very good GSDs.. some have better structure but others have better innate behavioral traits i.e.  some are good at bomb detection [ ever see a great narc , bomb , herding or search and rescue VA and how often  did a VA ever excel at those things ] So i say let's stop all the BS and just breed the Standard

Tell that to the MARINES...oops to the S.V....